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by Aedeeg
Dec 13 2017 11:08
Forum: Tau Tactics
Topic: The Confused Shas'el -- A Discussion on Battlefield Role for Crisis Battlesuits
Replies: 51
Views: 2321

Re: The Confused Shas'el -- A Discussion on Battlefield Role for Crisis Battlesuits

I haven't run the numbers on an Y'Vahra yet but I'd like to figure out how the Crisis Flamers compare to it. I'm contemplating dropping my Crisis team from my list in favor of one. Oh, even without running those numbers I have to tell you an important thing: You don't want to target the same units ...
by Aedeeg
Dec 12 2017 07:55
Forum: Tau Tactics
Topic: The Confused Shas'el -- A Discussion on Battlefield Role for Crisis Battlesuits
Replies: 51
Views: 2321

Re: The Confused Shas'el -- A Discussion on Battlefield Role for Crisis Battlesuits

I think that if Crisis Suits were BS3, a lot of their issues would be fixed. They still wouldn't be as points efficient as Commanders but would sit nicely between Commanders and our Drones/Infantry. There might even be a case for running burst cannons if they were BS. I don't understand why a run of...
by Aedeeg
Dec 12 2017 03:57
Forum: Tau Tactics
Topic: The Confused Shas'el -- A Discussion on Battlefield Role for Crisis Battlesuits
Replies: 51
Views: 2321

Re: The Confused Shas'el -- A Discussion on Battlefield Role for Crisis Battlesuits

I think right now when playing Index T'au, crisis suits are having an identity crisis (pun intended). They look like budget commanders on paper but tend to fall short. It will be interesting so see how this is addressed when the codex is released. I'd like to either see a points reduction, BS increa...
by Aedeeg
Dec 12 2017 11:25
Forum: Tau Tactics
Topic: The Confused Shas'el -- A Discussion on Battlefield Role for Crisis Battlesuits
Replies: 51
Views: 2321

Re: The Confused Shas'el -- A Discussion on Battlefield Role for Crisis Battlesuits

So you say that we have to look at the crisis suits in a vacuum and the proceed to add in marker drones, a drone controller and the markerlight stratagem. And don't get me wrong here, I think many loadouts are viable including yours but it is naive to ignore other options. Comparing Fusion blaster c...
by Aedeeg
Dec 11 2017 08:07
Forum: Tau Tactics
Topic: The Confused Shas'el -- A Discussion on Battlefield Role for Crisis Battlesuits
Replies: 51
Views: 2321

Re: The Confused Shas'el -- A Discussion on Battlefield Role for Crisis Battlesuits

I think one of the main things with these discussions is that you can't look at one unit in a vacuum, especially the XV-8s. I look at them as a unit to cover your weaknesses in list design. As Arka and Panzer have mentioned, gun drones and fire warriors do strength 5 shooting much better. XV-8s suff...
by Aedeeg
Dec 11 2017 03:59
Forum: Tau Tactics
Topic: ITC competitive T'au (can we hang?)
Replies: 8
Views: 572

Re: ITC competitive T'au (can we hang?)

@Yojimbob Yeah I've got three Riptides that haven't moved since 8th edition dropped. I was considering converting one to an Y'vahra. I skimmed over it in the IAI: Xenos but haven't run any of the math on it yet. Have you used it? I'm just wondering what kind of role it fills? Seems like it can do so...
by Aedeeg
Dec 11 2017 12:41
Forum: Tau Tactics
Topic: ITC competitive T'au (can we hang?)
Replies: 8
Views: 572

ITC competitive T'au (can we hang?)

Well it's been a long hiatus for me with a super busy winter at work so far but I booked tickets for the Las Vegas Open a while ago and am now gearing up to go. I am hoping to take T'au, I know that a lot of people are feeling down on their competitive viability, so as the title suggests, can we han...
by Aedeeg
Aug 28 2017 04:42
Forum: Tau Tactics
Topic: Flamers vs. Burst cannons
Replies: 21
Views: 2080

Re: Flamers vs. Burst cannons

If you look at my spreadsheet for crisis loadout it shows average wounds against different save values and points per wound. You are paying almost double the cost of a wound on the burst cannons compared to flamers. The flamers however are pretty dependant on a stealth team with a homing beacon so t...
by Aedeeg
Aug 28 2017 04:24
Forum: Tau Tactics
Topic: Rethinking my whole army.
Replies: 13
Views: 1135

Re: Rethinking my whole army.

I'd say you want a Coldstar warlord, CIB and/or FB Commanders, stealth team with a homing beacon and a crisis suit team with flamers. The horde killing potential of the flamer crisis team is amazing and a commander's BS2+ goes to waste with flamers. I really like breacher's in devilfish as well. My ...
by Aedeeg
Aug 28 2017 04:14
Forum: Tau Tactics
Topic: Crisis and Stealth Suit Loadouts
Replies: 27
Views: 2893

Re: Crisis and Stealth Suit Loadouts

Sorry everyone, I've been away over the weekend but i do plan to update these later this week. @akaron79 I will definitely add plasma, I don't even know how that slipped my mind lol. @Pottsey, good point about the ATS and its effectiveness in CC. I plan to write a more structured guide to go over th...
by Aedeeg
Aug 24 2017 12:44
Forum: Tau Tactics
Topic: Skyray- leave it on the shelf?
Replies: 6
Views: 754

Re: Skyray- leave it on the shelf?

If you have the marker light support it can be good. Once you fore off all the missiles, use it to charge in and tie up units. Are you running any devil fish or hammerhead? I think if you want to run seeker missiles they are better spammed than only taken on one skyway.
by Aedeeg
Aug 23 2017 12:10
Forum: Cadre Building
Topic: 2000pts Competitive Hammerheads
Replies: 8
Views: 778

Re: 2000pts Competitive Hammerheads

I wouldn't swap any weapons for an ATS on your commanders. Your efficiency goes down significantly for this both in average wounds done and points per wound. If you need the points you can downgrade a CIB to and ATS but I would only do that as a last resort. You seem to have a decent amount of anti-...
by Aedeeg
Aug 22 2017 02:46
Forum: Tau Tactics
Topic: Coldstar or 4 FB?
Replies: 8
Views: 865

Re: Coldstar or 4 FB?

The correct answer is Cyclic Ion Blaster. But all jokes aside, magnetize them for sure. You can even just magnetize the jet pack pieces and glue the High Output Burst cannon and Missile pod onto the Coldstar jet packs and you choice of weapons on the other. I wouldn't run anything but 4 CIB, 4 Fusio...
by Aedeeg
Aug 22 2017 02:43
Forum: Tau Tactics
Topic: Commander Loadout Spreadsheet
Replies: 7
Views: 1023

Re: Commander Loadout Spreadsheet

I definitely agree with your point about ITC missions and would prefer to play them any chance I can. I would definitely tailor my list more towards those by taking drones with commanders. Some tournaments will be running straight rule book though so I think it's something to be mindful of and build...
by Aedeeg
Aug 22 2017 02:40
Forum: Tau Tactics
Topic: Crisis and Stealth Suit Loadouts
Replies: 27
Views: 2893

Re: Crisis and Stealth Suit Loadouts

I think fusion commanders have their place but IMO the CIB commanders are the best all around units in Tau. They have better points per wound and Average wounds done than almost all other loadout on almost any target. The flamer can be better against conscripts and the Fusion blaster against high to...
by Aedeeg
Aug 22 2017 12:38
Forum: Tau Tactics
Topic: Commander Loadout Spreadsheet
Replies: 7
Views: 1023

Re: Commander Loadout Spreadsheet

I updated to make the Coldstar a complete separate entry and added the flamer for comparison with the Crisis Suits. Also made a post on Crisis and Stealth Suits similar to this one ( http://www.advancedtautactica.com/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=26398 ). I still stand by the fact that 4x CIB is the best...
by Aedeeg
Aug 22 2017 12:34
Forum: Tau Tactics
Topic: Crisis and Stealth Suit Loadouts
Replies: 27
Views: 2893

Crisis and Stealth Suit Loadouts

To continue on from my Commander Loadout Spreadsheet ( http://www.advancedtautactica.com/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=26365 ) post, here are the same spreadsheets for Crisis Suits and Stealth Suits Stealth Suit: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bhglCcgfsWpL5qUiv3tQk153pYi2VG6R3Mw_DV834bs/edit?usp...
by Aedeeg
Aug 16 2017 06:08
Forum: Tau Tactics
Topic: Commander Loadout Spreadsheet
Replies: 7
Views: 1023

Re: Commander Loadout Spreadsheet

I updated it to include PPW for the weapons + chassis. It has separate columns for "# of weapons" and "# of weapons w/ ATS" to allow for easy Avg Wnd and PPW comparison between the two. The HOBC may end up being removed in favor of a separate Coldstar Entry. As it stands it seems...

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