[Theme - Tactica] Orca Deployed Forces

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Re: [Theme - Tactica] Orca Deployed Forces

Post#51 » Dec 18 2013 07:56

boomwolf wrote:Too bad it costs like a small army all by itself though :P

(money-wise that is)

True... I think my entire planned 2000 point army (including masses of FW stuff) comes to less than the cost of the Orca! :eek:

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Post#52 » Dec 18 2013 08:23

I just bought IA3 and didn't really wanna buy another £50 book to get the reduced points cost. At the new price I think it'd be a fun list to run some time, I'm already considering ways to scratch build/kitbash such a vehicle. (Thinking Devilfish engines on a box, then details and tweaks from there.)

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Post#53 » Dec 18 2013 10:20

It is one of the few Super Heavies that we have that I think are cost-effect pretty reasonable.
Formations can not get on it, but every thing else baring allied can.

+ The model is amazing.
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Post#54 » Dec 19 2013 11:59

Ok, well game is tonight-2K. I think I have thought and written down about 12 different lists. I have walked back and forth on going traitor and taking the AX1-0. I have made a few forms of the whale of Fury out of humor. I have switched back and forth from Farsight too Tau over and over. I also feel like for all that effort I have found nothing that makes me feel "safe". I did post some thoughts here that did occur to me (http://advancedtautactica.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=21587&p=275553#p275553)

Nut and Bolt of what I am thinking of running:

Tau Codex(I just keep coming back with the fact that the Tigershark fits the Farsight team and the Orca fits the Tau better. There is just more synergy.)

The army will have elements:

The anchor - The goal of this force is Titan kill and soften the enemy
Void shield generator (3 shields)
R'varna and Riptides/XV88s form a firebase
Raven Commander

The push - Capture objectives and kill the defense
Orca with FWs and Snipers attack the back field.

The map - I place objectives as far from my fire base as I can. Force my opponent to attack away from the objectives.

Yes I give up +1 initiative and risk the Titan. Eh, that is how this cookie crumbles.
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Post#55 » Dec 19 2013 12:14

I wanna pitch the idea of an Orca-oriented scenario to my LGS. I have an army that arrives by Orca to take a position they're defending. Could be really fun and pretty cinematic.

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Post#56 » Dec 19 2013 01:56

CoffeeGrunt wrote:I wanna pitch the idea of an Orca-oriented scenario to my LGS. I have an army that arrives by Orca to take a position they're defending. Could be really fun and pretty cinematic.


I'm thinking of doing something similar, if O'Santa brings that Orca I requested ;)

3x stealth teams and a couple of pathfinder teams with homing beacons to guide the Orca In, with an ethereal and 4 teams of firewarriors with drones.

I'm even working on an 1850pts list for regular games on the same theme.

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Post#57 » Dec 29 2013 03:58

Orca landing, just in time to wipe the forces of the IG off the planet.

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Post#58 » Dec 29 2013 05:42

Out of curiosity, what are the dimensions of the Orca, roughly? Trying to see if I can proxy it with a Devilfish during a friendly Escalation game.

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Post#59 » Dec 29 2013 07:00

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This shows it next to a number of Tau vehicles. The RV1 and RV2 which are D-Fish variants are next to it. And those are Tetras driving out of the rear door.

38 X 24.5 CM - Nose to rear pods, engine to engine.

It is very big and hard to park.
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Post#60 » Dec 29 2013 07:40

Thanks for the pics and dimensions. As cool as it is, it's not £300 cool. I wanna try and make a Gue'vesa equivalent, probably from Valkyrie/Storm Talon parts, as I love those models. Either that or just scratch build it.

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Post#61 » Jan 29 2014 02:38

Orca is now "Hover" and flight stand enabled.
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And deploying troops onto my table...
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Orca
- Escalation Orca has limitations added to it by "escalation" that do not exist in APOC. 2nd Turn+, loss of Jink, Escalation bonus, and stratigic reserves.
- APOC Orca is an all star transport for an army that needs to get to the front line. Even with Farsight XV8 based armies, the pick up and fly away option is pretty amazing.

Point of this, they are not the "same" Orca even though they are the same Orca

- Side note, a flight stand enabled Orca is VASTLY more employable on a board. The just don't leave room for us to park our air bus on most boards...

Adding some updates to the top tab.

The "Defense Line Rush"
9-11 XV88s deployed and movable via Orca at a shifting 36"+ gap. Fly your stopping power to the perfect spot, leave with them when it get iffy. Upload and unload is 4 units, you have 4 units.


You might see more Orca action here soon as we shift to 1000 points in our Escalation game. I am back to Farsight so the lists might be focused on that supplement.
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Post#62 » Jan 30 2014 03:07

Thanks for sharing your Orca!
I love this model, if it comes true what the rumours say and forgeworld is going to be available through mailorder, I will definitely get one, plus a Baracuda escort! :)
Please keep us updated when the paintings done! I'd love to see more of this baby! ;)

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Post#63 » Jan 30 2014 05:37

I'd like to have an Orca, but I'm on the fence over the boxiness of it. I'd probably try it as my first Scratch build, as the price is pretty hefty!

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Post#64 » Jan 30 2014 11:44

I do not think I have ever seen this brought up or brought it up myself.
- The Orca is an amazing piece of terrain as well as a great model.

Throw an OBJ in the command area and wait for the most cinematic fight ever.

Watched chaos cultists fight back to and up into the Orca as they tried to hold off waves and waves of nids. As the guants followed then up the ramp, you knew the walls were about to get a paint job. Really fun and visually amazing item.

(When I get my Manta, I would love to see a battle across its insides. Theme it crashed or derelict and mild defense points hastily thrown up. It would be glorious!)
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Re: [Theme - Tactica] Orca Deployed Forces

Post#65 » Jan 30 2014 12:34

I sadly don't play anywhere other than my FLGS, and £300 is a lot to pay for some cinematic terrain! I'd also love the challenge of making my own.

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Post#66 » Feb 18 2014 01:53

So im building an Orca mainly as a nice piece of battle terrain, but I wouldn't mind giving it a go if added to more ground based crews, sort of a emergency back-up mission on a home planet.
Orca Dropship
Cadre Fire Blade
2 x Crisis Battlesuits with 2 x Missile Pods (or Fusion Blasters)
24 Fire Warriors
4 x Pathfinders
6 x Sniper Drones with 2 x Marksman
2 x XV88 Broadsides with High-Yeild system and SMS
4 x DX-6 Remora's
It seems unit light on at a rough total of 1300pts but would be fun just for the fluff!
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Re: [Theme - Tactica] Orca Deployed Forces

Post#67 » Feb 18 2014 02:20

You are high on currant price for the Orca.

Your list does look fun to play. I warn you though that the delay caused by escalation vs APOC does leave the Orca less effective.
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Re: [Theme - Tactica] Orca Deployed Forces

Post#68 » Feb 18 2014 03:17

How much is the orca in the apoc book as the latest imperial armour vol 3 2nd Ed has it as 400pts! Which is pricy for a taxi with pistols...
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