handsomemenace wrote:Now, in 8th edition, I'm totally done with the T'au until we get our codex, which unfortunately will be one of the last ones to be released. Fluffy armies just don't work. Suits are too expensive and with the loss of JSJ and taking penalties when moving and shooting heavy weapons, they are honestly not worth taking.
We don't know whether we will be last or not. We're getting 10 Codexes till Christmas (about half of the existing factions) and one of them is even a completely new one (Death Guard).
handsomemenace wrote:Six crisis suits will run you close to 500 points which just doesn't work since a small unit of Melta guns will easily take them out. Prime example is those damned scions. 80 points of scions will easily destroy all 500 points of crisis suits.
Take Shield Drones. Nobody in their right mind will shoot Melta at a unit of Crisis surrounded by Shield Drones. Also AM is rather broken currently so it's as little helpful to compare our units with theirs as it was to compare their units with Eldar in 7th.
handsomemenace wrote:Or vehicles are a little better. We all know that Longstrike with Hammerheads is a great AV to bring to any table. Our flyers are pretty good now, specifically our bomber, which easily destroys marines.
"Great AV" well...not really. It's okay-ish. Marine Lascannon spam is FAR better. The Razorback is still crap but the Sunshark indeed is nice.
handsomemenace wrote:Firewarriors are 1pt cheaper per model but IMO they cannot get the amount of fire they need to be effective. You have to tax them with a Fireblade but even then, Volley Fire only works if they don't move AND only at half range. So, you probably have them in a transport, you move the transport to an obj turn one, deploy them turn 2, and on turn 3 you can finally get volley fire, if they haven't beeen wiped out.
Gun drone are excellent. 4 shots per drone is amazing. Pair them with a Fireblade and that becomes 6 shots since the two carbines get an extra shot each. Pair them again with a drone controller somehow and you're laying down some amazing firepower. Again those, this is largely taxing.
Firewarrior are good for their points. I don't see them becoming cheaper. Ask Skitarii how they feel about their 11p S4 AP0 Infantry with similar statline lol
Gun Drones just offer so much more utility plus more dakka for their points that it's riddiculous. More of a case of Gun Drones being slightly too cheap imo.
handsomemenace wrote:Ghostkeel is honestly trash this edition. That's my opinion though and can be debated.
handsomemenace wrote:Fusion blasters are the most expensive AV weapon in the game I think.
About as expensive as Lascannons iirc but with -1S and 1/4th of the range. However our only spammable anti-tank weapon and we can get them in range quite reliably via Manta strike while Crisis with Shield Drones aren't exactly a suicide unit unless you drop them infront of Berzerker or similar. Should be cheaper though, I agree.
handsomemenace wrote:Seems like literally every other other army gets 3+ BS pretty much all the time, and then rerolling 1s on top of that with most characters.
Yeah it's annoying. We are supposed to get to BS3+ via Markerlights (+ other benefits) but it's so hard to reach that it's basically not worth considering so we are stuck as the shooty BS4+ army.