Battalion 750pts

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Re: Battalion 750pts

Post#19 » Oct 23 2017 11:42

So, suit-only is almost not real, 3 tanks + some infrantly isn't really good... What's good t'au roster for 750pts then?
Or it'd be better make a 1000pts roster with suits and drones and learn how to play with bigger army?
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Re: Battalion 750pts

Post#20 » Oct 23 2017 11:47

Ar'Che'R wrote:So, suit-only is almost not real, 3 tanks + some infrantly isn't really good... What's good t'au roster for 750pts then?
Or it'd be better make a 1000pts roster with suits and drones and learn how to play with bigger army?

As I said before. Same stuff that's good at higher point levels. Gun Drones and Commander (either with 4 Fusion Blaster, CIB or MP).
A single unit of Crisis Suits certainly works as well, just not two of them.
Stealth Suits are never bad either.
Breacher in a Devilish are pretty strong if you don't want to load the fish with Drones or if you need Troops for your detachment.
Pathfinder are never bad either and especially in low point games their Rail Rifle could do some real work.

Just go through the other list building threads and see what works there and reduce it to your point level. ;)

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Re: Battalion 750pts

Post#21 » Oct 23 2017 12:18

And what if use Supreme Command? XV86 can deepstrike with Drones and than move through the whole table running to or from the enemy. Will it give a kind of table control with very few models or it's just loss of points? Or better use FB and CIB Commanders? I'll make a new topic with such rosters >_>
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Re: Battalion 750pts

Post#22 » Oct 23 2017 12:41

Panzer wrote:Just go through the other list building threads and see what works there and reduce it to your point level. ;)

Good advice but... I'm newbie and have no idea what's work and what's just silly)

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Re: Battalion 750pts

Post#23 » Oct 23 2017 12:46

Ar'Che'R wrote:
Panzer wrote:Just go through the other list building threads and see what works there and reduce it to your point level. ;)

Good advice but... I'm newbie and have no idea what's work and what's just silly)

Well you'll know when you read the comments of other user in those threads. :D

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Re: Battalion 750pts

Post#24 » Oct 23 2017 01:20

Panzer wrote:Well you'll know when you read the comments of other user in those threads. :D

From comments I've got best Commander wargear options)

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Re: Battalion 750pts

Post#25 » Oct 23 2017 01:24

So who's the shooty army again :D

It's a sad day when we have nothing that could deal with those lists :dead:

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Re: Battalion 750pts

Post#26 » Oct 23 2017 01:46

Nymphomanius wrote:Yeah tbh if you go against AM and they're going for tank spam in 750pts I'd use this list which would be very difficult to deal with.

What's about this roster [747 Pts]?

Patrol [219 Pts]

Commander [176 Pts]
4x Fusion Blaster [84 Pts], 2x MV4 Shield Drone [16 Pts]

Breacher Team [43 Pts]
Markerlight [3 Pts]

Supreme Command [528 Pts] +1CP

Commander [176 Pts]
4x Fusion Blaster [84 Pts], 2x MV4 Shield Drone [16 Pts]

Commander [176 Pts]
4x Fusion Blaster [84 Pts], 2x MV4 Shield Drone [16 Pts]

Commander [176 Pts]
4x Fusion Blaster [84 Pts], 2x MV4 Shield Drone [16 Pts]

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Re: Battalion 750pts

Post#27 » Oct 23 2017 02:23

Ar'Che'R wrote:
Nymphomanius wrote:Yeah tbh if you go against AM and they're going for tank spam in 750pts I'd use this list which would be very difficult to deal with.

What's about this roster [747 Pts]?

Patrol [219 Pts]

Commander [176 Pts]
4x Fusion Blaster [84 Pts], 2x MV4 Shield Drone [16 Pts]

Breacher Team [43 Pts]
Markerlight [3 Pts]

Supreme Command [528 Pts] +1CP

Commander [176 Pts]
4x Fusion Blaster [84 Pts], 2x MV4 Shield Drone [16 Pts]

Commander [176 Pts]
4x Fusion Blaster [84 Pts], 2x MV4 Shield Drone [16 Pts]

Commander [176 Pts]
4x Fusion Blaster [84 Pts], 2x MV4 Shield Drone [16 Pts]

That would obviously be rather effective against a Tank spam list, however you'd lose horribly against any horde list with this. Usually you just don't know what kind of list you're facing so I'd try to avoid such a list.

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Re: Battalion 750pts

Post#28 » Oct 23 2017 02:38

Panzer wrote:That would obviously be rather effective against a Tank spam list, however you'd lose horribly against any horde list with this. Usually you just don't know what kind of list you're facing so I'd try to avoid such a list.


Supreme Command and Outrider Detachment (CP +2) [750 Pts]

Commander [176 Pts]
4x Fusion Blaster [84 Pts], 2x MV4 Shield Drone [16 Pts]

Commander [176 Pts]
4x Fusion Blaster [84 Pts], 2x MV4 Shield Drone [16 Pts]

Commander [151 Pts]
Drone Controller [5 Pts], 3x Cyclic Ion Blaster [54 Pts], 2x MV1 Gun Drone [16 Pts]

Commander [151 Pts]
3x Cyclic Ion Blaster [54 Pts], Drone Controller [5 Pts], 2x MV1 Gun Drone [16 Pts]

Tactical Drones [32 Pts]
4x MV1 Gun Drone

Tactical Drones [32 Pts]
4x MV1 Gun Drone

Tactical Drones [32 Pts]
4x MV1 Gun Drone

Not well against tanks but better against swarms

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Re: Battalion 750pts

Post#29 » Oct 23 2017 02:42

I think that's pretty much the best you can do for 750p to be honest. Maybe switchout one Drone Controller with ATS but that's a minor issue.
The thing with low point games is that there will always be lists you just can't win against unless you knew you'd be facing such a list (and to be fair, we are in a position where we can't win many games at normal point level either).

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Re: Battalion 750pts

Post#30 » Oct 23 2017 02:49

Panzer wrote:there will always be lists you just can't win against unless you knew you'd be facing such a list

There's no fun in only winning) I'm just looking for a roster that wouldn't be looking uneffective in most of situations



The last question left - how does ATS look like?))

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Re: Battalion 750pts

Post#31 » Oct 23 2017 10:39

Ar'Che'R wrote:
Panzer wrote:there will always be lists you just can't win against unless you knew you'd be facing such a list

There's no fun in only winning) I'm just looking for a roster that wouldn't be looking uneffective in most of situations

If there's no fun in only winning, don't take that list. It's absurdly optimized. In fact, if you swap the Drone Controllers for ATS, it might be the best possible Tau 750-point :D



Ar'Che'R wrote:The last question left - how does ATS look like?))

ATS is great, for some loadouts. Try 3xCIB+1xATS, or 3xMP+1xATS.





So, are you interested in making a Battlesuit spam list? Or do you like tanks better? We'd he happy to help you make a solid list if you have some ideas for where to start!

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Re: Battalion 750pts

Post#32 » Oct 24 2017 01:27

Arka0415 wrote:
Ar'Che'R wrote:The last question left - how does ATS look like?))

ATS is great, for some loadouts

I ment that I don't no how this piece looks on the model. I found some of wargear but not the ATS.
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ATS, if I'm not mistaken, just a special computer, maybe it's inside only and don't have no outer piece?
Arka0415 wrote:We'd he happy to help you make a solid list if you have some ideas for where to start!

Great to hear) I like suits more
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Re: Battalion 750pts

Post#33 » Oct 24 2017 01:46

The multi tracker you have there I always thought that was the targeting array and multi tracker was hardwired like most support systems and had no physical model

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Re: Battalion 750pts

Post#34 » Oct 24 2017 02:36

Nymphomanius wrote:The multi tracker you have there I always thought that was the targeting array and multi tracker was hardwired like most support systems and had no physical model

Cool, but the question was about ATS. Or it's hardwired too?

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Re: Battalion 750pts

Post#35 » Oct 24 2017 02:50

As far as I know yes there's no model for it just the weapons

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Re: Battalion 750pts

Post#36 » Oct 24 2017 03:02

ATS is a new upgrade from the 8th edition Index. It doesn't have any official model counterpart as far as I know. Just use some of the random-suit-upgrade bits that come in the Crisis Suit box. There's a couple of them, some of which don't have names.

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