Suit only roster for 750 Pts ideas

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Ar'Che'R
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Suit only roster for 750 Pts ideas

Post#1 » Oct 23 2017 01:16

Roster with XV86
Supreme Command [748 Pts] (CP +1)

Commander [134 Pts]
-Commander Suit [76 Pts], 2x Fusion Blaster [42 Pts], 2x MV4 Shield Drone [16 Pts]

Commander [134 Pts]
-Commander Suit [76 Pts], 2x Fusion Blaster [42 Pts], 2x MV4 Shield Drone [16 Pts]

Commander in XV86 Coldstar [160 Pts]
-XV86 Suit [90 Pts], Advanced Targeting System [8 Pts], High-output Burst Cannon [20 Pts], Missile Pod [24 Pts], Multi-Tracker [2 Pts], 2x MV1 Gun Drone [16 Pts]

Commander in XV86 Coldstar [160 Pts]
-XV86 Suit [90 Pts], Advanced Targeting System [8 Pts], High-output Burst Cannon [20 Pts], Missile Pod [24 Pts], Multi-Tracker [2 Pts], 2x MV1 Gun Drone [16 Pts]

Commander in XV86 Coldstar [160 Pts]
-XV86 Suit [90 Pts], Advanced Targeting System [8 Pts], High-output Burst Cannon [20 Pts], Missile Pod [24 Pts], Multi-Tracker [2 Pts], 2x MV1 Gun Drone [16 Pts]

Spoiler!
Couple of FB Commanders can be replaced by these:

Commander [168 Pts]
4x Fusion Blaster [84 Pts], 2x MV4 Shield Drone [16 Pts]

Commander [102 Pts]
2x Flamer [18 Pts]

That'll take the rest 2 Pts from 750pts limit




Roster with usual Commanders
Supreme Command [750 Pts] (CP +1)

Commander [128 Pts]
-Commander Suit [76 Pts], Advanced Targeting System [8 Pts], 2x Cyclic Ion Blaster [36 Pts], MV1 Gun Drone [8 Pts]

Commander [168 Pts]
-Commander Suit [76 Pts], 4x Fusion Blaster [84 Pts], MV4 Shield Drone [8 Pts]

Commander [154 Pts]
-Commander Suit [76 Pts], Advanced Targeting System [8 Pts], 2x Cyclic Ion Blaster [54 Pts], 2x MV1 Gun Drone [16 Pts]

Commander [154 Pts]
-Commander Suit [76 Pts], Advanced Targeting System [8 Pts], 2x Cyclic Ion Blaster [54 Pts], 2x MV1 Gun Drone [16 Pts]

Commander [146 Pts]
-Commander Suit [76 Pts], Advanced Targeting System [8 Pts], 2x Cyclic Ion Blaster [54 Pts], MV1 Gun Drone [8 Pts]



Roster with little FW Support
Patrol and Supreme Command [749 Pts] (CP +1)

Breacher Team [43 Pts]
Markerlight [3 Pts]

Cadre Fireblade [42 Pts]
Markerlight [3 Pts]

Commander [168 Pts]
4x Fusion Blaster [84 Pts], MV4 Shield Drone [8 Pts]

Commander [164 Pts]
Advanced Targeting System [8 Pts], 3x Missile Pod [72 Pts], MV4 Shield Drone [8 Pts]

Commander [164 Pts]
Advanced Targeting System [8 Pts], 3x Missile Pod [72 Pts], MV4 Shield Drone [8 Pts]

Commander [168 Pts]
4x Fusion Blaster [84 Pts], MV4 Shield Drone [8 Pts]


Drone roster with more anti-tank output (based on Yojimbob's post)
Supreme Command and Outrider Detachment [750 Pts] (CP +2)

Commander [176 Pts]
4x Fusion Blaster [84 Pts], 2x MV4 Shield Drone [16 Pts]

Commander [176 Pts]
4x Fusion Blaster [84 Pts], 2x MV4 Shield Drone [16 Pts]

Commander [151 Pts]
Drone Controller [5 Pts], 3x Cyclic Ion Blaster [54 Pts], 2x MV1 Gun Drone [16 Pts]

Commander [151 Pts]
3x Cyclic Ion Blaster [54 Pts], Drone Controller [5 Pts], 2x MV1 Gun Drone [16 Pts]

Tactical Drones [32 Pts]
4x MV1 Gun Drone

Tactical Drones [32 Pts]
4x MV1 Gun Drone

Tactical Drones [32 Pts]
4x MV1 Gun Drone

Long range
Supreme Command and Outrider Detachment [748 Pts] (CP +2)

Commander [164 Pts] (Deathrain-D7-ATS)
3x MP [72 Pts], ATS [8 Pts], MV4 [8 Pts]

Commander [156 Pts]
3x MP [72 Pts], ATS [8 Pts]

Commander [156 Pts]
3x MP [72 Pts], ATS [8 Pts]

Commander [176 Pts] (Sunforge-X)
4x FB [84 Pts], 2x MV4 [16 Pts]

Tactical Drones [32 Pts]
4x MV1

Tactical Drones [32 Pts]
4x MV1

Tactical Drones [32 Pts]
4x MV1

Total [748 Pts, 19 Mds]
Last edited by Ar'Che'R on Oct 24 2017 02:47, edited 9 times in total.

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Yojimbob
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Re: Suit only roster for 750 Pts ideas

Post#2 » Oct 23 2017 01:35

Supreme command
QFC 2 shield -176
Commander 3 CIB,ats 2 gun -154
Commander 3 CIB,ats 2 gun -154

Outrider
Commander 3 CIB,DC 2 gun -151
5 gun drone - 40
5 gun drone - 40
4 gun drone - 32
747 total

Not exactly suit only but if you don't take drones you're shooting yourself in the foot.

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Re: Suit only roster for 750 Pts ideas

Post#3 » Oct 23 2017 01:49

Yojimbob wrote:Not exactly suit only

Just suits and drones. Exactly what's needed, thanks)

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Re: Suit only roster for 750 Pts ideas

Post#4 » Oct 24 2017 03:40

Yojimbob wrote:Supreme command
QFC 2 shield -176
Commander 3 CIB,ats 2 gun -154
Commander 3 CIB,ats 2 gun -154

Outrider
Commander 3 CIB,DC 2 gun -151
5 gun drone - 40
5 gun drone - 40
4 gun drone - 32
747 total

Not exactly suit only but if you don't take drones you're shooting yourself in the foot.

This is a great list. With two CIB suits you are going to want Markerlights, I think. Shouldn't be too hard to add some in though.

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HQ - Commander w/ 4x Fusion Blasters; 1x Shield Drone, 1x Marker Drone (178)
HQ - Commander w/ 3x Cyclic Ion Blasters, 1x ATS; 1x Shield Drone, 1x Marker Drone (156)
HQ - Commander w/ 3x Cyclic Ion Blasters, 1x ATS; 1x Shield Drone, 1x Marker Drone (156)
HQ - Commander w/ 3x Cyclic Ion Blasters, 1x ATS; 1x Shield Drone, 1x Marker Drone (156)
Fast Attack - 5x Gun Drones (40)
Fast Attack - 4x Gun Drones (32)
Fast Attack - 4x Gun Drones (32)

Total: 748 - Command Points: 5 (1 Supreme Command Detachment, 1 Outrider Detachment)

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Is this the best spread for Marker Drones? No, probably not. The idea is just that you get 4 Marker Drones, and 17 other Drones. Spread them around as you see fit.

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Re: Suit only roster for 750 Pts ideas

Post#5 » Oct 24 2017 05:49

Arka0415 wrote:With two CIB suits you are going to want Markerlights, I think.

4 Markers won't give enough use or I'm wrong?

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Re: Suit only roster for 750 Pts ideas

Post#6 » Oct 24 2017 07:24

Ar'Che'R wrote:
Arka0415 wrote:With two CIB suits you are going to want Markerlights, I think.

4 Markers won't give enough use or I'm wrong?


Two BS5+ Markerlights have a hit chance of 2*(1/3), or 66%, which is the same as BS3+. Every two Marker Drones is a statistically-likely hit.

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Re: Suit only roster for 750 Pts ideas

Post#7 » Oct 24 2017 07:42

Ar'Che'R wrote:
Arka0415 wrote:With two CIB suits you are going to want Markerlights, I think.

4 Markers won't give enough use or I'm wrong?

It's just about getting at least a single Markerlight hit on the target so you can re-roll 1s on your overcharged CIB (and every other weapon of course).
The other Markerlight bonuses aren't as necessary in a 750p list and would require serious dedication to get there. If not 1 hit you'll usually going for 5 hits which would require an average of 10 Pathfinder to shoot...so more like 15-20 since the enemy will shoot at them for sure.

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Re: Suit only roster for 750 Pts ideas

Post#8 » Oct 24 2017 10:19

Arka0415 wrote:
Yojimbob wrote:Supreme command
QFC 2 shield -176
Commander 3 CIB,ats 2 gun -154
Commander 3 CIB,ats 2 gun -154

Outrider
Commander 3 CIB,DC 2 gun -151
5 gun drone - 40
5 gun drone - 40
4 gun drone - 32
747 total

Not exactly suit only but if you don't take drones you're shooting yourself in the foot.

This is a great list. With two CIB suits you are going to want Markerlights, I think. Shouldn't be too hard to add some in though.

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HQ - Commander w/ 4x Fusion Blasters; 1x Shield Drone, 1x Marker Drone (178)
HQ - Commander w/ 3x Cyclic Ion Blasters, 1x ATS; 1x Shield Drone, 1x Marker Drone (156)
HQ - Commander w/ 3x Cyclic Ion Blasters, 1x ATS; 1x Shield Drone, 1x Marker Drone (156)
HQ - Commander w/ 3x Cyclic Ion Blasters, 1x ATS; 1x Shield Drone, 1x Marker Drone (156)
Fast Attack - 5x Gun Drones (40)
Fast Attack - 4x Gun Drones (32)
Fast Attack - 4x Gun Drones (32)

Total: 748 - Command Points: 5 (1 Supreme Command Detachment, 1 Outrider Detachment)

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Is this the best spread for Marker Drones? No, probably not. The idea is just that you get 4 Marker Drones, and 17 other Drones. Spread them around as you see fit.


Definitely want some markerlights. I had been kicking around the idea of adding multitrackers for a list like this but losing ATS seems so awful. Multitrackers burning a haradpoint makes them awful even if they REFUNDED points back, let alone cost a measily 2 points. I still can't justify this wargear even in a list like this. It's soooooo bad.

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Re: Suit only roster for 750 Pts ideas

Post#9 » Oct 24 2017 10:22

Yojimbob wrote:Definitely want some markerlights. I had been kicking around the idea of adding multitrackers for a list like this but losing ATS seems so awful. Multitrackers burning a haradpoint makes them awful even if they REFUNDED points back, let alone cost a measily 2 points. I still can't justify this wargear even in a list like this. It's soooooo bad.

Hardwired systems. If only we could get those again.

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Re: Suit only roster for 750 Pts ideas

Post#10 » Oct 24 2017 10:29

Arka0415 wrote:
Yojimbob wrote:Definitely want some markerlights. I had been kicking around the idea of adding multitrackers for a list like this but losing ATS seems so awful. Multitrackers burning a haradpoint makes them awful even if they REFUNDED points back, let alone cost a measily 2 points. I still can't justify this wargear even in a list like this. It's soooooo bad.

Hardwired systems. If only we could get those again.


On Commanders and bodyguards so that bodyguards might even be a thing!

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Re: Suit only roster for 750 Pts ideas

Post#11 » Oct 25 2017 05:46

Yojimbob wrote:Definitely want some markerlights.

Arka0415 wrote:Two BS5+ Markerlights have a hit chance of 2*(1/3), or 66%, which is the same as BS3+

Won't it be better to combine Marker Drones with Drone Controller?

Supreme Command (CP +1) (Tau Empire) [480 Pts, 21 Pwr]

HQ [480 Pts, 21 Pwr]
Commander [176 Pts, 7 Pwr]
4x Fusion Blaster, MV1 Gun Drone, MV4 Shield Drone
Commander [146 Pts, 7 Pwr]
Advanced Targeting System, 3x Cyclic Ion Blaster, MV4 Shield Drone
Commander [158 Pts, 7 Pwr]
Advanced Targeting System, 3x Cyclic Ion Blaster, 2x MV7 Marker Drone

Outrider Detachment (CP +1) (Tau Empire) [269 Pts, 7 Pwr]

HQ [173 Pts, 7 Pwr]
Commander [173 Pts, 7 Pwr]
Drone Controller, 3x Missile Pod, 2x MV7 Marker Drone
Fast Attack [96 Pts]
Tactical Drones [32 Pts]
4x MV1 Gun Drone
Tactical Drones [32 Pts]
4x MV1 Gun Drone
Tactical Drones [32 Pts]
4x MV1 Gun Drone

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Re: Suit only roster for 750 Pts ideas

Post#12 » Oct 25 2017 11:07

Ar'Che'R wrote:
Yojimbob wrote:Definitely want some markerlights.

Arka0415 wrote:Two BS5+ Markerlights have a hit chance of 2*(1/3), or 66%, which is the same as BS3+

Won't it be better to combine Marker Drones with Drone Controller?

HQ [480 Pts, 21 Pwr]
Commander [176 Pts, 7 Pwr]
4x Fusion Blaster, MV1 Gun Drone, MV4 Shield Drone
Commander [146 Pts, 7 Pwr]
Advanced Targeting System, 3x Cyclic Ion Blaster, MV4 Shield Drone
Commander [158 Pts, 7 Pwr]
Advanced Targeting System, 3x Cyclic Ion Blaster, 2x MV7 Marker Drone

Outrider Detachment (CP +1) (Tau Empire) [269 Pts, 7 Pwr]

HQ [173 Pts, 7 Pwr]
Commander [173 Pts, 7 Pwr]
Drone Controller, 3x Missile Pod, 2x MV7 Marker Drone
Fast Attack [96 Pts]
Tactical Drones [32 Pts]
4x MV1 Gun Drone
Tactical Drones [32 Pts]
4x MV1 Gun Drone
Tactical Drones [32 Pts]
4x MV1 Gun Drone


Not worht dropping your commander effectiveness for the DC in my opinion. the drones are there for extra wounds and a hopeful light. I wouldn't but that's just me.

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Re: Suit only roster for 750 Pts ideas

Post#13 » Oct 26 2017 03:18

Also I think it isn't allowed due to policy here to set individual points cost on items and stuff

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Re: Suit only roster for 750 Pts ideas

Post#14 » Oct 26 2017 06:55

Ar'Che'R wrote:Won't it be better to combine Marker Drones with Drone Controller?

You may find that an ATS, and more outright damage, will be better than a Drone Controller. Those Marker Drones will be picked off fast- better to hide them in squads, or just take Pathfinders.

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Re: Suit only roster for 750 Pts ideas

Post#15 » Oct 26 2017 08:45

StealthKnightSteg wrote:Also I think it isn't allowed due to policy here to set individual points cost on items and stuff

Thanks for the catch. I've edited the post.

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