AnonAmbientLight wrote:The logic is that any point changes done would be point changes done for Index: T'au and specifically how Index: T'au functions. When Codex: T'au comes out, the entire way that T'au functions would change because of new stratagems, relics, warlord traits, and sept rules. So the point costs would have to change again.
This logic holds for all of the factions.
I haven't exactly shared my opinions on this, yet, largely because opinions can easily become volatile. But the facts are these:
1) T'au remains largely unaffected by Chapter Approved, at least comparatively.
2) Chapter Approved is available for preorder, and we don't know when our codex is going to be released.
There is a prevailing notion that our lack of Chapter Approved changes reflects an upcoming Codex release, and I see people holding this up as a silver lining. This includes VIPs like Reece, who may not be a direct GW employee is seen as having insider access into the design process, and is sort of a next-step-down-from-official representative of GW's policy. His "strong hints" may be seen as soft confirmation of an upcoming T'au release.
But so what? Facts 1 and 2 remain unaltered. GW has released no information about their release schedule past mid-January, and Chapter Approved is being billed as a patch.
Chapter Approved isn't a patch and they are not really claiming it is. A portion, a fraction really, of the book are point updates and 3-5 new rules per army for armies that do not have them. The vast majority of the book covers new rules and what is essentially FAQs for the main codex. Like how characters interact when it comes time to shoot, and who gets Obj Sec.
SinisterSamurai wrote:Perhaps the codex changes so much that the playtest team had to make a tough choice between playtesting and improving the Index builds, or playtesting and improving the codex builds. While the choice of focusing on Codex gameplay and bugfixing is ideal in a scenario where CA would be invalidated within a month or two of release, that still doesn't alter the information provided to the customer base.
It is more likely that when the game was being redone for 8th, they tried to make it as stable as possible. Playtesters or what they really are, beta testers, can only do so much and catch so many problems. With games, or really anything, releasing a stable version and letting hundreds and thousands of people play it will always yield better results. That's pretty much true of anything and that's what happened with 8th.
SinisterSamurai wrote:GW is collecting pre-orders for Chapter Approved from interested T'au players under the sales pitch that it will make significant changes to the way all factions play, but has been less than transparent about it's minimum impact on T'au. Even if they make the schedule announcement on Monday and we find out that our codex comes out mid-January, GW will have committed, at best, an anti-consumer practice. And I highly suspect we won't be given that information until well after Chapter Approved has collected purchases from uninformed players expecting more, and maybe not even until after Christmas funds get spent on it.
If you follow the warhammer community page, you would see why it isn't a bait and switch tactic like you are claiming. Only one or two of the eight or ten Chapter Approved posts mention army balance. The rest are new game modes or FAQs.
I do think that point cost updates and army rules should be posted on the website. Then again, these things get leaked rather easily. We know all the rules for all the armies and the point costs before anyone has had a chance to purchase them. Something GW doesn't seem to be worried about, hence pretty much every major community website is able to freely talk about the leaked rules.
SinisterSamurai wrote:GW has something of an image problem. They have been accused of several negative business practices in the past, and while that image is certainly turning around as late, it hasn't quite turned fast enough to prevent this conflict of interest. I can't say that Chapter Approved has been handled in an unexpected way for GW or of any business, but I can't say that this has been handled in a way that instills confidence in their business practice.
Which would be what? Old GW would be putting out cease and desist orders on every website that puts out leaked info. Anyone that has a computer, and is involved with the warhammer community in any fashion will know whats going on.
I can't say that your concerns are grounded.
Though maybe we are looking at this from the wrong angle, yes maybe we didn't have any non FW points reductions but many armies had points increases, astra millitarum had the cost of melta go up for their BS3+ or better models go up by 25%
4 melta wielding deepstriking tempestus went from 88 to 104 pts,
Conscripts went up by 33% a 30 man squad now costing 120pts instead of 90 and commisars got nerfed in the last faq.
So the added tax on other more powerful codex armies does add a little extra value to our units.
Also rowboat girlyman's gone up 10% that's like 3 less space Marines to shoot at
I find it is often about perspective and sometimes the echo chamber causes people to not realize the greater picture.
There are Ultra Marine players on their forums complaining about the cost of Rowboat.
There are Guard players complaining about how useless conscripts are now.
Grass is always greener and all that.