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Re: 3D print extra parts: Stormsurge, Riptide, Piranha, ...

Post#81 » Aug 25 2016 04:03

I received the cover plate from Shapeways and I can confirm that it does not fit in the opening. The side-to-side measurement looks perfect and the circles are well-aligned with the cutouts, but as you noted the piece is slightly too long front-to-back. I would suggest pulling that one down from Shapeways until you are ready to put up the next version. I agree that it could be made to fit by shaving material off on either the resin or the plastic, but there is not much room on the back side of the plastic and the front side can't be trimmed. The resin part has the cutouts for the doors, so I am not sure it would still look right if you shaved the required amount off of the back.

I can post pictures if that would help, but it is basically the same thing as the pictures already posted except that the Shapeways resin appears stiffer.

Anyway, eagerly awaiting the next iteration. The detail on these was fantastic. The doors actually fit better than they appear to in the non-Shapeways images. When they are in and closed you can not really even tell that they are separate pieces.

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Re: 3D print extra parts: Stormsurge, Riptide, Piranha, ...

Post#82 » Aug 25 2016 04:40

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Ta da :-)

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Post#83 » Aug 25 2016 05:14

@khanaris
Thanks for the feedback. I am at version 3 (even more corrected than Shapeways version 2, with some minor tweaks), received and tested today. I don't have taken pics as I am testing other parts and build them on the model first, but the frame fitting is now close to the model. Still need a little sanding to fit well and minimize the gaps but even with only gap-filling the model seems fine.

Missile supports are tested too and their fitting is to be reviewed too (they are more easier to fit on the model, but not perfect). It seems that the missile holder may benefit to be 5mm higher, as it is a little too short in height.

I will adjust then the model, post pics and update the Shapeways item.

The hatches on the pictures I took were misplaced because I didn't glued them in place. I didn't commented on that because as the hatches were integrated in my 3D concept, their fitting is supposed to be accurate. I will make also a little upgrade with a support for the pilot hatch as it is tedious to assemble closed compared to the gunner hatch.

@nova_wolf
Thanks for your pic. The sensor use is great.

And for people wanting pics of a full model (mine is not finished nor painted at the moment) just a digital preview of the current model alongside other possibilities:
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EDIT: here pics of models fit on the torso (with minimal sanding). Sorry for blurry pics, the white primer mess with the autofocus.
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Post#84 » Aug 27 2016 03:02

That looks fantastic! Can't wait for the little adjustments so I can order my own! Those 3D models are helpful as well, I feel like this is what the Stormsurge should've been upon release. I'm very excited to be rocking two of them soon.

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Post#85 » Aug 31 2016 12:17

Thanks.

I had little free time now and for the next weeks, but I have infos to share before doing a bigger update.

First, the cockpit cover on Shapeways is now the same model than mine, with some minor corrections based on my own model building. The only updates I may add now to the models will be based on user inputs to ease the fitting on more Stormsurge models. I may release a hollowed version, for a few 20% saving only (around $10 vs $12 for the current model). You may save more by buying items in bulks or combined with other parts.

Then, I put the missile support in thin version on Shapeways. Like I said in the previous post, I may update the model later with an ability to choose the height of the missile arrays cups (to rise them by 2 to 5 mm).

Also I received the thinner version of the arms. And they hold very well a moderate stress.
I am able to press the two opposite edges of the gauntlets without deformations and breaking even if the model walls are 0.4mm thick. So I consider the model sturdy enough to hold well the load of a standard gaming stress. I may add some inner reinforcements to be sure but the models are amazingly sturdy for their thickness.
Shoulders are even more resilient (they have smaller surfaces). Maybe the elbow is a little too thin, but their roundness still help to hold well the stress.
Models would not sustain easily high falls if they protrude, but for a big model like the Stormsurge, falls are less likely and if parts broke, their size make the repairs more easy.
I will put slowly the thin models for sale after the next update (with pics of models and stress tests), later this month.

Currently, the savings in FUD are between 40% (missile supports : $17 -> $10 ) to 50% (shoulder + gauntlets with arms: $63 -> $30)

Consequently I will put on side the casting process of the arms (too tedious for me to do with prices near or a little under those of Shapeways FUD thin versions) and release all the parts in thin versions. Casting parts is still a possibility, but not for now for me on my own.

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Re: 3D print extra parts: Stormsurge, Riptide, Piranha, ...

Post#86 » Aug 31 2016 07:38

Gorgeous result, and really interesting that 3D printing is near or slightly under the cost to cast.

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Post#87 » Sep 13 2016 09:58

Just got the updated cover plate from Shapeways. Can confirm that this version fits perfectly. Finally we have an answer to rain!

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Post#88 » Sep 13 2016 01:03

@Tael:
Thanks
Close-to-cast price are achieved by printing only the outer shell with an extreme thinness. The models are, of course, not as sturdy as a cast model could be.

@Khanaris:
Glad to see you keep faith in my work and removed towels from the Stormsurge crew wargear (unless they plan to travel the Galaxy).


Some infos (more by the end of September I hope):

I ran some test on the thin versions: they are surprisingly sturdy for their thinness. I test glued an arm in place with the long gun underneath, and pushed the tip down. Super glue broke before the models, even if the elbow was a little distorted under the constraint (around 1N or 100g force on the gun tip, roughly the force you need to put a pin in a wall).

Surface is strangely corrugated, but I suspected this came from the machine orientation they choose for printing. A good sanding and everything is better.
Also, I recommend to clean the remaining wax carefully from the model, because the thin version seems more waxy than the thick: a bath in a 50-60 °C water (beware to not let the temperature be over 60°C else the Frosted resin will soften and bend), dishwashing liquid and a toothbrush are good.

I posted a test model on Shapeways to compare prices: http://shpws.me/MESs
You can see the savings by swapping SIZE (over the item price) from Extra-small (=thin version) to Medium (thick version)
This item, and other prototypes could be ordered, see my shop inventory. Until I clean this topic and my shop and maybe review a little the models, thin versions and combo will be put on demand (PM me) on Shapeways.

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Post#89 » Sep 24 2016 05:21

Other quick tests run on thin versions today, with proper gluing this time and pics:
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The bottle that push over the arm is a 1.5 L sugar cola of a well known brand (around 1,7 kg).
Notice the small deformation on the ball joint, but after removing the load, it get its normal shape.
You cannot believe the models have wall that are only 0.5 mm thick...

These tests convinces me to push all the model to the Thin version by default. Thick versions will still be available, but on demand only.

Cleaning the OP and my shop with properly sorted items and descriptions will be made the next month.
Now that this model seems fine, I may start other projets, Tau related, if life let me some free time.

Thanks to all people that ordered the models. I am eager to see more of your Stormsurges...

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Re: 3D print extra parts: Stormsurge, Riptide, Piranha, ...

Post#90 » Sep 25 2016 03:06

Impressive stress testing! Look forward to the new builds too :)

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