Panzer wrote:If they really have trouble against you give them hints. Like the above mentioned thing against Stealth Suits (they really aren't that durable despite their 2+ save) and the (for us) obvious thing to take out Pathfinder asap so we can't buff our shooting.
I'm afraid that may come of as condescending. Or like hand holding, any way to not sound like I'm insulting the other person? Is their an etiquette guide on that?
No real etiquette, no. It's all about the wording and the right time to talk about it.
It's more meant to nudge them into a general direction of thinking.
New people rarely think games through or reflect on how they could have done things better/what makes the enemy strong etc.
Partially because all the names and numbers are a bit much to remember at first. It helps to present your guys in more simple terms. Like pointing on your Pathfinder and say "those guys make my other guys really good at shooting when they hit with their shooting first" and then pointing on your Stealth Suits and say "those guys don't shoot that well against heavier armored guys on their own but they can shrug off some strong shooting when in terrain if it's only a few shots every time" etc.
Talk about it when your opponent is really not seeing it and repeats those mistakes several games in a row. Basically before he gets too frustrated but not when he is still trying to figure out how to win on his own.
It's like with the Space Wolve player in my group. He kept complaining that we always shoot his Thunderwolve Cavalry off the table before they can get anywhere (or only really badly crippled). Well d'uh that's our only chance how to deal with them but of course telling him that won't help him at all.
Instead we told him what he generally does wrong. In this specific case that he keeps sending his TWC in our direction while the rest of his army is either in reserve (worst case was Wulfen in a Stormwolve that arrived turn 4 lol) or simply not being able to keep up with them without being a real threat either.
By now he learned to harass us with Drop Pods, Long Fangs (SW Devastators) and Jump/Bike units as well while he still has his TWC as well. Or he allies them in with his tank heavy Astra Militarum so we have to deal with those asap as well.
In fact since he at first only tried to bring stronger and stroner units without using his army right we now have the problem that after teaching him how to play his army right he has no feel for how strong his units actually are when played properly which raised the powerlevel in our group a good bit.