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Flight Stand?

Post#1 » Jan 09 2014 02:46

Hello All,

My Barracuda and Tigershark AX010 should be arriving in the next few days and I wanted to see what everyone thought to us for flight stands? I know it will be a LOT of resin to hold up. Anything I get would have to be off the internet :sad: courtesy of being in Turkey.

Anyways...I appreciate any inputs or ideas! Thanks again ATT...always the best and brightest here.
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Post#2 » Jan 09 2014 02:54

Barracuda 1/8th Inch Steel rod 8 inches high in an oval base.
Negatives - You need a grinder to cut and shape the steel.
Plus - Its minimal look maximum strength.

AX1-0 uses a .5 inch Aluminum cylinder rod 10 inches tall. The rod is sunk in 4 layers of fiber-board and has a imperial tower build around it (all parts are layered in Cryo-Glue). The aluminum plate it is on is 6X8 in size.
Negatives - Aluminum is still hard to work with, but easier then steel. The plate could use some grinding into a oval.
Plus - Looks amazing, very strong.

Planned

Orca - 2 .25inch aluminum rods on a 6X8 aluminum
Tiger Shark - 2 .25inch aluminum rods on a 6X8 aluminum

The most important thing is what and how you drill for a peg slot on the model. Not all models have the "space" for a type and size of rod as all the others.
Tiger shark and Orca have some of the hardest spaces to identify.

AX1-0 and Barracuda are pretty easy.
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Post#3 » Jan 09 2014 02:55

Vay wrote:Barracuda 1/8th Inch Steel rod 8 inches high in an oval base.
Negatives - You need a grinder to cut and shape the steel.
Plus - Its minimal look maximum strength.

AX1-0 uses a .5 inch Aluminum cylinder rod 10 inches tall. The rod is sunk in 4 layers of plasterboard and has a imperial tower build around it. the aluminum plate it is on is 6X8 in size.
Negatives - Aluminum is still hard to work with, but easier then steel. The plate could use some grinding into a oval.
Plus - Looks amazing, very strong.

Planned

Orca - 2 .25inch aluminum rods on a 6X8 aluminum
Tiger Shark - 2 .25inch aluminum rods on a 6X8 aluminum

The most important thing is what and how you drill for a peg slot on the model. Not all models have the "space" for a type and size of rod as all the others.
Tiger shark and Orca have some of the hardest spaces to identify.

AX1-0 and Barracuda are pretty easy.



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Post#4 » Jan 09 2014 02:57

Can photo drill points and bases later if you want (I will any way).

My thoughts on the Tigershark are a goal post type split. Still working out the best Orca method.

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Stand height its a key factor too. I kept barracuda the same height as other flyers. I made my AX-10 a little higher since it was APOC, but this makes cover harder to get.
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Post#5 » Jan 09 2014 02:58

Vay wrote:Can photo drill points and bases later if you want (I will any way).


I'd say do it, and the post as a proposed article! Never hurts to have more resources for the community.
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Post#6 » Jan 09 2014 03:05

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Post#7 » Jan 09 2014 03:08

Mine will be operating with the Barracuda and a Sun Shark as an air interdiction force/warhound killers/tank killers in a month.

Debating doing mine up in an alternate scheme since they are air and not land. My land are mostly white as primary color, so maybe dark grey.

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Post#8 » Jan 09 2014 03:18

I had this same aviation debate on design. http://advancedtautactica.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=21662&start=20&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

I am going with Air Caste Command force in the black/grey/light grey camo. Ground force fighters are in the colors of their force (RV2 and 1 Remora).

I am still thinking of a 3rd option, Deep space Air Caste controlled. Or Orbit force which I had in black with white lines like the AX1-0 in the picture.

AX1-0...

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Not as good as it should be. Fliers lose first turn (Not in APOC), board is smaller, and you still have to use reserves. These make it horribly priced for its effect. Our APOC aviation was designed around APOC 1st round entry.
(An odd over look for Escalation which could have kept all the flier rules like they did for everything else)


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Post#9 » Jan 09 2014 03:40

Fluff I could find gave me the idea that: most air craft I read about had a pattern to match atmospherics and time of day of attack. So a day and night fighter group with color tones to match the climate and atmospherics.
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Post#10 » Jan 09 2014 03:58

Vay wrote:Fluff I could find gave me the idea that: most air craft I read about had a pattern to match atmospherics and time of day of attack. So a day and night fighter group with color tones to match the climate and atmospherics.


One other thing to consider on this is that aircraft often have different camo patterns depending on the angle viewed. Looking upwards at them, they will typically match the skyline, while looking downwards (like from another aircraft) they often have darker tones to try to blend with the deck. Kinda like this guy:

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Notice that the lower half is pure white (difficult to see from the ground) while the upper half is standard green/tan/brown camo (difficult to see from the sky).

*Edited for afterthought: Modern military practice discourages the use of pure black as a camo color, as it does not typically happen in nature. Night camo is greys/blues, think US navy digicam. For daylight operations consider dark browns instead.
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Post#11 » Jan 09 2014 05:01

That is what I am doing with my Barracuda.

The top camouflage ties it in with my ground forces and helps to give my army a common theme and the underside is in low-vis grey.

The best way to go is to look at real world aircraft and take your inspiration from them. When I first started modelling (pre-internet) I treated myself to an Aircraft images book showing different paint schemes from WW1 till present (well it was present then, mid 80s :eek: ) and it has been a great help. I still have it somewhere but I get most of my inspiration from the web now.

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Post#12 » Jan 09 2014 05:15

foto69man wrote:Hello All,

My Barracuda and Tigershark AX010 should be arriving in the next few days and I wanted to see what everyone thought to us for flight stands? I know it will be a LOT of resin to hold up. Anything I get would have to be off the internet :sad: courtesy of being in Turkey.

Anyways...I appreciate any inputs or ideas! Thanks again ATT...always the best and brightest here.


check out dragonforge.com for flyer stands with clear rods.
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Post#13 » Jan 09 2014 06:34

I am using the standard GW flying stand for my Barracuda and it is sturdy enough. Not sure if it will work on the Tigershark.

I found a couple on eBay so that would be a good place to start.

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Post#14 » Jan 10 2014 08:34

Put up some photos for you under my project log. http://advancedtautactica.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=21662&p=276572#p276572
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Post#15 » Jan 11 2014 11:33

A standard flight stand works perfectly well for a Tigershark. Mine live on it perminatly on display.

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To make the cross I just used 6mm drill bit in my fingers to get a rough shape then used a hobby file to finish it up. It didn't take as long as you might think. I went all the way through that peice and the stand fits flush right on the ballance point of the model and is more stable than my Barracudas.

My two Barracuda also use a GW flying base with no issues.

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Post#16 » Jan 11 2014 11:40

Nice to know the stands work on the Tigershark. Question - did it come with a stand or did you buy it separately?

Is it wrong that I am now looking at the FW site and thinking to myself "that would look nice on my display shelf" :)

On your 'cudas - have you tried turning the stand around so the model is more central over the base. Check mine out to see what I mean as mine is very stable.

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Post#17 » Jan 11 2014 03:12

All of mine came with that stand supplied.

I do model my stands with the stem glued more towards the back of the base these days. I'll eventually replace these ones, but for now it's not really an issue. I'd spin them around like yours but some deep seated OCD stops me from doing so. I know it's made to fit one way and based with that in mind. There will only be who would notice this (and anyone reading this post) but that's not the point. :P

With the release of escalation my Tigershark won't have to just sit a look pretty in between Apocalypse games any more... Muhahahhaaa... :dead:

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Post#18 » Jan 27 2014 08:47

Motivated by Shas'O Darklighter
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This is a combo of my old design and his use of the smaller oval. I cast molded a oval with 12 washer discs embedded in the front arc. I then re-drilled and mounted the old tower/rod. The combined weight and off weight worked like a charm!

Here is it flying next to its Space Hulk raiding force.
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