Pseudomancer wrote:Are you able to comment on the Counterfire Defence Systems? I haven't run them, and every time I consider it I just think "oh I'll just avoid cc or use Supporting Fire from other units which will reduce its importance." Was your choice of CDS influenced by Kroot's lack of Supporting Fire? Would you take it in a more traditional list? And do you think Marker Drones would be an adequate substitute?
Yes the lack of supporting fire on Kroot was a factor in the initial choice of CDS, it cemented its place in the list pretty early on and is now part of the overall list strategy. Even in a more conventional list the only reason I would choose not to take it on a Riptide would be if my list needs it to take a different support system. Much as we might try to avoid assault it is unavoidable in many games and even one high quality hit in overwatch will more than make back the points cost of the upgrade. With my large amounts of kroot & drone bubble-wrap the Riptide itself has not been assaulted by anything other than my son's Riptide in a year of playing this list. The CDS helps me turn my passive bubble-wrap into an active part of my counter-assault strategy of wearing opponents down with successive damaging turns of supporting fire to the onion-layers of kroot. The Hunter Cadre rules also matter here, allowing me freedom to manouvre whilst keeping the benefits of supporting fire.
In the tournament the CDS on the Riptide was used in every game, usually more than once and usually to decent effect. The CDS on the Ghostkeel was less used and less effective but the issue there is more that the Ghostkeel was not really key to my strategy so tended to be bouncing around the table on distraction/harassment duties.
Marker drones are obviously awesome - especially in the drone net - but I have very little luck in generating more than the odd hit in overwatch with them. With so many units wanting to fire overwatch each one that is a bit less dependent on using that precious marker token frees up something else to get serious work done. A less MSU list would get more value out of marker drone overwatch.