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Re: [Wolfs16's Tau Log] The ARC-16's (Updated 8-27-10)

Post#591 » Aug 27 2010 08:09

Now THAT is a sleek killing machine! Leave it like that! :D

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Re: [Wolfs16's Tau Log] The ARC-16's (Updated 8-27-10)

Post#592 » Aug 27 2010 08:34

Hey Wolfs16
Should I just smooth it out attach something else there?
I'd try to just smooth it out...... see how that looks.

I really want to see it painted now!!!!

EDIT: I was just looking at this and my brain stared to hurt............ If thats how you're mounting the SMS, how are you going to mount the Burst Canons?

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Re: [Wolfs16's Tau Log] The ARC-16's (Updated 8-27-10)

Post#593 » Aug 28 2010 04:07

My opinion on this project at the moment is, I don't think you want to tool this thing up too much. What I mean is, the more you add and add and add, the more cluttered and out of place the model looks in comparison to the sleek curves of a normal Tau Army. I need to see it painted to really tell how well this goes with other Tau tanks. Perhaps take a picture with both a normal and your upgraded tank in it so we can get a comparison?

As it is, I think you should just go for smoothing the whole thing out, and not really go for any more 'extra bits' as you may find they actually detract from the model. As you have it at the moment, the engines are a very smooth job, well done. The frontal view makes the tank look very sleek. So far it's looking really nice. I would advise against more trinkets, but if there is anything else you want to add, by all means go for it, at the end of the day it's your tank ;)
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Re: [Wolfs16's Tau Log] The ARC-16's (Updated 8-27-10)

Post#594 » Aug 28 2010 10:59

Wolfs16, I'm going to give you my completely honest opinion on the tank, and I hope you're not offended.

I think that that the engines being mounted parallel does not look good. It makes it look far to square for a Tau tank. What I would suggest is mounting the engines on opposite angles, like Xeones' excellent Piranha conversion.If you look at the way the rear engines and the front wings are mounted (front view), they form a very wide sort of diamond shape. I think I described the shape pretty well- but I can't say why I like it so much...
I don't know how you achieve that without wigs, though - the small engines in front just couldn't be angled properly to capture the same flow..

Regardless, you've put a lot of work into this model, and the changes I suggest would basically mean starting from scratch - not to mention that you're happy with how it looks right now. It's your model, so (obviously) do as you please - but I just wanted to give some ideas. Maybe for future conversions?

Anyways, as for the mounting of the SMS - I'm not sure. Could we get a shot with the turret mounted?



Regarding what Majonga said - I agree and disagree. I've seen a lot of models that overdo the bits and end up looking ridiculous/stupid.
But then, there are models like Warhound's revamped Crisis Suitsthat look awesome. The size and placement of the bits is just as important as how many you have. If you get all three right, you end up with a really detailed model that honestly looks like a piece of military hardware.
Probably you already know that but... food for thought, eh? :D
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Re: [Wolfs16's Tau Log] The ARC-16's (Updated 8-27-10)

Post#595 » Aug 29 2010 11:18

Thanks for the compliment Termy! :)

Jester, your comments and opinions are always appreciated. I don't think I would be posting this stuff here if I didn't want feedback! But I'm afraid I disagree when you say that it loses the Tau look. The profile is low and swept to the ground, to give it more of a hovercraft, heavy lifter look. The engines, while not swept in the direction of Tau aircraft and facing the same direction with similar angles so it keeps the flowing the right way. This tank is not built for agility, but built to haul the gigantic railgun! :D I think that for its intended function in the army it fits the design. As for the SMS, they are staying where they are. I am getting really sick of this tank by now, so I just want it to be done and over with! :D

Majonga, I agree that less is more and that overdoing detail can kill a model, so I will wait till I finished the engine mounts completely, then I will see how everything else look.

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Re: [Wolfs16's Tau Log] The ARC-16's (Updated 8-27-10)

Post#596 » Aug 30 2010 08:18

Wolf, I won't discuss on the modelling since it's simply perfect for me. And when I look at this babby, I imagine it with two railguns on each side of the main hull, just beside of the cockpit, and the roof of the TX as flat as possible. It could make a cool mini-Tigershark!!

But I disgress...the SMS are well placed! That keeps the aerodynamic look of the whole vehicle without breaking the lines.

Now on the painting, is it me or your red is much brighter than on your other models? And the glow of each engine is strange too...I though that the little inclined panels inside of the engine was some sort of "shutters" to regulate the oxygene flow (and thus the speed). Myself, I've painted the area between each shutters, as you can see there (no the mold lines are not here, it's just an illusion! No comment please! :roll: ):

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I know it's my own interpretation, but I wanted to share it so you can see what it looks like.

Keep your wheels on the rail(gun)! :D

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Re: [Wolfs16's Tau Log] The ARC-16's (Updated 8-27-10)

Post#597 » Aug 31 2010 02:27

Awesome work. I really like your design for your modified Hammerhead. Is it me or do you use a lot of green stuff to make surfaces? isn't it easier to use plasticard and fill gaps with greeenstuff?
Stop tweaking that baby in danger of overdoing it. Looking forward to the finished tank.

Martial wrote:I thought that the little inclined panels inside of the engine was some sort of "shutters" to regulate the oxygene flow (and thus the speed). Myself, I've painted the area between each shutters, as you can see there (no the mold lines are not here, it's just an illusion! No comment please! :roll: ):

I totally agree with you on that. I think that your approach looks more realistic. I saw your comment and applied it to my own Devilfish.

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Re: [Wolfs16's Tau Log] The ARC-16's (Updated 8-27-10)

Post#598 » Sep 01 2010 11:43

Martial:
No, the red is the same. The tank looks totally normal next to all the other models, I think it just the lighting. As for your engine lighting suggestion, I think that looks great and I would love to use that on my next build, but for right now I just want to get this thing done and over with! I have been working on this model for weeks and it is boring the life out of me now! :::(

Patchoro:
Yes, I did use a lot of greenstuff and yes, I could (should) have done things a bit differently. I have learned a lot from working on this beast and hope to apply those lessons in the future. :)





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Guys, I am seriously getting burned out working on this tank. :sad: There always seems to be something else to do on it; it never ends! Needless to say, I am really looking forwarding to just finishing this thing! So here is the current painting progress. I would say I'm about 85% there:

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There are just some details that need finishing, but I'm getting close! Once the painting is done, all I gotta do is finish the crews background and we should be good to go!

I can see the light at the end of the tunnel!

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Re: [Wolfs16's Tau Log] The ARC-16's (Updated 9-02-10)

Post#599 » Sep 02 2010 07:05

Adding the cannon is definitely an improvement. I'm sorry but... did we ever get any fluff for guy? Am I oblivious, or is it yet to come?
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Re: [Wolfs16's Tau Log] The ARC-16's (Updated 9-02-10)

Post#600 » Sep 02 2010 08:33

Niiice.

I would be fairly intimidated if I saw that pointing at me from across the table. If anything, I like the look of the low slant on the nacelles.
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