Building a cadre while deployed now with monkeys (18 Sep)

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Building a cadre while deployed now with monkeys (18 Sep)

Post#1 » Jul 31 2014 09:23

Greetings all,
If you have read my profile you will see that I am currently deployed to the State of Kuwait in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. I work as part of a very small team and have A LOT of alone time. I fell away from gaming a few years ago while going through a divorce and packed away all my paints and minis. Fast forward a bit and here I am, bored and feeling the itch to paint and find someone to battle. I've always like the Tau models and decided to start a new army.
Due to my personal issues and a new relationship I'm cash poor so I went to bartertown to find some good deals. So far I've gotten the codex, the mini version of the 7th ed rule book, a skyray, a dfish, some fire warriors, pathfinders all prebuilt, a riptide, broadsides, a kroot squad and a commander all NIB. Luckily I got all of this for about 200$. So I think I have a good start to my army.
I am waiting for them to be shipped here and I will start photo documenting my progress. I ordered a paint set and brushes from amazon and I need to find a cheap alternative to green stuff that can be shipped here. Getting hobby supplies is a royal pain as a lot of products can't come through our mail system and some people don't like shipping overseas, even though we use usps lol
Anyway, wish me luck and I'll keep everyone posted.
Happy gaming,
Silver

As a side note if you want to donate your old, junky or just unused stuff to the USO, I'm trying to figure out the process so other gamers might have a chance to play here.
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Re: Building a cadre while deployed. Or a lesson in patience.

Post#2 » Jul 31 2014 11:28

Silverbranch wrote:I need to find a cheap alternative to green stuff that can be shipped here
Have you considered Milliput? They have a few different comparable products listed on Amazon.
Will Flak'O for food.

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Post#3 » Aug 04 2014 12:42

I ordered miliput from amazon and I found some suitable wire in our warehouse today to make armatures with so more to follow on those. :)

Can someone provide me with the dimensions of both the tetra and the adl? I'd like to try an idea I have floating around in my messy brain.

Thanks in advance,
Silver

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Post#4 » Aug 08 2014 05:38

Well the day has come. The advance party of the cadre has arrived. Mail call was great :)
I received my commander, broadsides, riptide (which may end up being sold) all nib, skyray, dfish, 12 pathfinders and 24 fire warriors. I'm not happy with because the guy I got them from modeled 12 of them with carbines but we'll see.
The bad part is neither my glue nor paints arrived so I just get to look and plan but can't start building yet.
So I'm still pending 12 dryads (that'll merge with the kroot) and 2 tree kin (krootoxen), 9 crisis suits, 2 hammerheads, another broadsides and an ethereal. I need to find some more fire warriors and another dfish. I'm also looking at some skaven to convert to hrud pathfinders.
More to follow along with pics as soon as the supplies arrive.
Oh and in bigger news I found a shop in Kuwait City that sells GW stuff so I'm gonna try to get down there this week as well.
Wish me luck,
Silver

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Post#5 » Aug 08 2014 01:42

Silverbranch wrote:Well the day has come. The advance party of the cadre has arrived. Mail call was great :)
I received my commander, broadsides, riptide (which may end up being sold) all nib, skyray, dfish, 12 pathfinders and 24 fire warriors. I'm not happy with because the guy I got them from modeled 12 of them with carbines but we'll see.
The bad part is neither my glue nor paints arrived so I just get to look and plan but can't start building yet.
So I'm still pending 12 dryads (that'll merge with the kroot) and 2 tree kin (krootoxen), 9 crisis suits, 2 hammerheads, another broadsides and an ethereal. I need to find some more fire warriors and another dfish. I'm also looking at some skaven to convert to hrud pathfinders.
More to follow along with pics as soon as the supplies arrive.
Oh and in bigger news I found a shop in Kuwait City that sells GW stuff so I'm gonna try to get down there this week as well.
Wish me luck,
Silver

Congratulations on your models and good luck! I can imagine that working on such a project can't be easy out there, but I can't claim to know anything about how the military works (the only person I know in the military is my brother-in-law, and he's in a part of the Canadian Air Force lovingly dubbed the "Chair Force").

I just wanted to chime in here about those Carbine Fire Warriors: If there's anything Tau and 7th Edition Photon/EMP Grenades have taught me, it's that Carbine-equipped Fire Warriors are not to be underestimated. They can shoot AV11 and still glance it to death, and charge it if they really need it dead. Speaking of charging, 24 s5 shots are nothing to sneeze at with proper markerlight support. This isn't even mentioning the new throwable Photon Grenade: If you manage to eek out a blind at the end of the shooting phase, Your Fire Warriors now hit on 3's and your opponent hits on 5's in Assault. Fire Warriors winning in close combat is just ridiculous enough that it's making me consider running them again.

EDIT: Heck, park them with the ethereal and keep pumping out the 6+ FNP during assaults for maximum troll. This idea is zany and suggesting that you actually actively assault with them. It's either too hard to pull off successfully or it's going to throw your opponent off after he underestimates them and gets a unit just a little too close.

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Post#6 » Aug 11 2014 09:50

Quick update -- so I made it to the only game store in Kuwait. I was really impressed with their set up. They have 5 gaming tables and an impressive array of games. It was odd to see it as any form of dice or cards are illegal here, gambling laws are very strict, but very refreshing. The guys were super friendly and all wanted to talk to me. MTG is king here along with dust tactics. I looked at the Axis flyer and I think I might pick one up as the lines are very "Tau-ish"
The bad part was warhammer in all it's forms is not popular here and had I made it to the store a week ago, I could have bought their whole stock at about 70% off. Unfortunately all they had left was a stompa and an imperial knight. Neither was for sale :(
The good was I was able to pick up 20 pots of GW paint for about 8$ total. The color selection wasn't great but I couldn't pass up the deal. So I'm going to change my color scheme and start assembling and painting and I will post pictures, hopefully, this weekend. My hammerhead and 10 firewarriors should be here in a week or so along with my dryads and tree kin.
More to follow,
Silver

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Post#7 » Aug 14 2014 02:44

Hey all,
My initial pics can be seen here. In some ways I'm an idiot and I can't figure out how to post pics directly using my iPad. So here's the link. http://s44.photobucket.com/user/SFCTau/library/
So I started color testing and I'd like to think this scheme is subtle yet clean. I didn't prime the models yet as I'm still looking for a good spray to use. Spray paint is a pain to get here :(
These are going in a simple green bath later but I'd love some feedback.
Thanks in advance,
Silver

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Post#8 » Aug 14 2014 02:48

So have you got any of the other guys out there on post playing with you? or is it just you that is interested? could always just show them the light that is 40k haha.
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Post#9 » Aug 14 2014 06:06

I did put up a note in the MWR rec center. I haven't gotten any feedback on that yet :(
They had a couple AOBR sets when I was here in '11-'12 but sadly they are now gone. I suspect someone added to their collection and left the rest of us with nothing.
Until later,
Silver7 out

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New fluff for a new direction :)

Post#10 » Aug 22 2014 10:03

250 years ago the forward scouts of Cry'tal Sept landed on the planet Olonga. They were astonished to find two intelligent, yet entirely different, races living in a semi-symbiotic relationship. The dominant species, the Simar, were large ape like beings that were formed into tribes that closely resembled cadres. And the Oaken, who were mobile plant creatures that resembled trees.

When the Fire Caste made land fall, they were attacked by the Simar who used crude powder based projectile weapons and wore rough beaten iron armor. Fierce battles raged and heavy loses were taken on both sides. The vast numbers of the Simar nearly over coming the Cadre many times. The Simar adapted their tactics quickly, picking up weapons of fallen firewarriors and using them to great effect. The Simar warchiefs or Silverbacks began forming their warriors in to 3 man teams and using hit and run tactics that were the signature of the Cadres Crisis teams. They used the smaller, more agile members of their species in 10 or 12 man squads to form gunlines or mobile harassers. A third and even smaller sub species acted as scouts. The interesting thing about the scouts was their ability to move through the air on vestigial wings. (FLYING MONKEYS)

Of even greater concern was the fact that squads of firewarriors and pathfinders would go into the woods and disappear. The Oaken were able to blend in so well with the “normal” trees of the forest as to be indistinguishable. They were also found to be able to absorb non-natural element and make use of them. Dead oaken were found with pulse rifles imbedded in their branches and when autopsies were preformed it was discovered that the Oaken were actually able to operate the weapons.

After nearly a year of heavy fighting, the ethereal. Var'han and his assistants were dispatched to try and quell the fighting. They arrived on planet and made their way to the largest Simar war camp and were instantly escorted to the Great General Ko'ng. Like they had done millennia before, they came out of the meeting hours later and the fighting was over. General Ko'ng sent messengers to every sub commander and to the Great Grove of the Oaken that all fighting was to instantly cease and the the Tau were now allies.

The Air Caste emissaries and Earth Caste technicians moved in quickly to establish the Greater Good in this new colony and in less than 2 years from the time of discovery the entire system was in the hands of the Tau. It's outer planets rich in heavy metals and rare gasses. The planet Olonga's seas full of eatable life and quite suited to host weary warriors as an R&R station.

The Earth Caste was able to adapt XV-8 and XV-88 to fit the Simar frames and the Fireblades began training Simar cadres. Their ability to adapt, or ape, made the Simar cadres easy to train making the Fireblades' work that much easier.

The Oaken ability to absorb and assimilate alien technology still baffles the Earth Caste but they have been able to develop a weapon system that the Oaken have found acceptable and have become quite adept at using with sniper like accuarcy.

The Sept leaders have a small Tau garrison and training cadre on Olonga but the majority of the forces are Simar and Oaken warriors.

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The new Cadre

Post#11 » Aug 22 2014 10:10

The current garrison is comprised of:

TE (Training Detachment)
Ethereal (not sure if I want him. A Fireblade would be much fluffier but I'd have to find 4 points)

10 Firewarriors

10 Firewarriors

Sky Ray
Filters
Spines
D-Pods

FE (Simarian Warriors)
Commander Ceasar
2x MP
DC
TL
2 Marker Drones
Talisman of Apethas Monkloch

XV8-S3 Crisis Team (Simar model 3)
Commander here...markers and missiles
Shas'ui
2x MP
TL
Marker Drone
Shas'ui
2x MP
TL
2 Marker Drones
Shas'ui
MP
Flamer
2 Marker Drones

VX-S3 Crisis Team
Hit and run Plasma goodness
Shas'vre
2 x PR
TL

Shas'ui
2 x PR
Flamer

Shas'ui
2 x PR
VRT (if I understand correctly, if 1 has it the whole unit has it)

VX-S4 (different models)
Deep striking armor breakers
Shas'vre
2 x FB

Shas'ui
2 x FB

Shas'ui
2 x FB
Flamer

Oaken Squad
better than kroot
12 Oaken
Sniper rounds
Tree-Kin (krootox)
Hound (no catchy name yet)

Elite
XV104 Riptide (Ko'ng pattern)
Ion accelerator
EWO
VT

Fast Attack
5 Pathfinders (again, no catchy name yet)

5 Pathfinders

Heavy Support
XV88-S7 Snipersides
ATS

XV88-S7 Snipersides
ATS

Railhead Gunship
Filters
Spines
D-Pods
Sub rounds

If my maths are correct this is right on 1846 points. I did the FE/TE allies as it fits my fluff well and for more practical reasons the models come 4 to a box. The Karmans models will be here next week and I hope they fit as well as I think they will. The Oaken (dryads) are sitting at the P.O. so I will have them tomorrow. For the Flying monkeys (pathfinders) I have to order them but have no money for that until payday. This post might be better in the army list thread but I have 2 threads going as it is. Is there a way to merge them?
C&C is always welcome because I thrive on feedback :P
Thanks again,
Silver

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Post#12 » Aug 23 2014 08:46

If you are looking for these points for a Cadre Fireblade I think that it would be in your favor to run squads of 9 firewarriors. It greatly increases your survive ability for moral and pinning checks. Makes it to where to where Thea same amount have to die as 10 but more than 8. Just an idea. Also don't know what you meta is but if you end up against a hord army you may not have enough shots. Maybe look at a second list with more burst cannons and flamers on your suits. Might even be able to save enough points to deck out that hammerhead with Longstrike.

Again congrats on the build fun you will be having.

PS maybe you are thinking about the kroot hounds to hard. My idea is Root hounds.
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Post#13 » Aug 24 2014 02:16

ROOT HOUNDS...you're right I was thinking to hard.
I will be posting pics of my first Oaken tomorrow. I never been a much of a converter/modeller and I really don't enjoy painting for more than about 30 minutes at a time but I have 4 months to finish before I pack it all up and move to Japan.
Any way I made some changes to the list, I got rid of the Sky Ray, 2 marker drones and the ethereal. I added a Fireblade, an ADL with a quad gun and Longstrike to my HH. I also rearranged the FWs in to a squad of 12 for and one of 8 My plan is to establish a fire base with the ADL, the 12 FWs joined by the Fireblade who will man the quad gun.


TE (Training Detachment)
Cadre Fireblade

12 Firewarriors

8 Firewarriors

Railhead Gunship
Filters
Spines
D-Pods
Sub rounds
SMS
Longstrike

Aegis Defense Line
Quad-Gun

FE (Simarian Warriors)
Commander Caesar
2x MP
DC
TL
2 Marker Drones
Talisman of Apethas Monkloch

XV8-S3 Crisis Team (Simar model 3)
Commander here...markers and missiles
Shas'ui
2x MP
TL

Shas'ui
2x MP
TL
2 Marker Drones

Shas'ui
MP
Flamer
Positional Relay


VX-S3 Crisis Team
Hit and run Plasma goodness
Shas'vre
2 x PR
VRT

Shas'ui
2 x PR
Flamer

Shas'ui
2 x PR
Flamer

VX-S4 (different models)
Deep striking armor breakers
Shas'vre
2 x FB

Shas'ui
2 x FB

Shas'ui
2 x FB
Flamer

Oaken Squad (better than kroot)
14 Oaken
Sniper rounds
Tree-Kin (krootox)
Root Hound

Elite
XV104 Riptide (Ko'ng pattern)
Ion accelerator
EWO
VT

Fast Attack
5 Pathfinders

5 Pathfinders

Heavy Support
XV88-S7 Snipersides
ATS

XV88-S7 Snipersides
ATS

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1st Oaken pics

Post#14 » Aug 24 2014 09:59

Woke up early so after making coffee I started messing wih the Oaken.
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This was done while standing in my little kitchen and still needs some work but I like it so far.
As always C&C are welcome.
Silver

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Setback and waiting :(

Post#15 » Aug 26 2014 03:03

Ok well we've had a bit of a set back. The flying monkeys that I planned to use as my pathfinders are no longer available. There were made for Fantaside(??) and are now OOP. So i need to find something else to take thier place. My moddelling skills suck so I may go back to using the skaven idea or ditch that part completely.
I've been trying to figure out what to use for Simar drones and came across some 15mm monkey models and was thinking about mounting the on drone bodies, think of spider monkies on grav boards. I will edit this post with pics of what I mean later.
I will be painting up the first Oaken this evening and post pis of that as well.
More to follow...
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Oaken test paint

Post#16 » Aug 26 2014 08:56

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Thought?

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Post#17 » Aug 26 2014 12:37

I am groot!

Now that I have that out of the way, I love that oaken model! It fits so nicely with the kroot head swap, and I'm really looking forward to how the Root hounds and treekin-krootox conversions turn out! Keep it up and I would love to see how an entire squad of them looks

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Post#18 » Aug 27 2014 09:58

Good morning ATT. I found replacement for my pathfinders here: http://eurekaminusa.com/collections/boi ... s/100bsa18 they don't have wings but I think they will fit in nicely.
I finished assembelling my Oaken squad's bodies last night now I have to cut the arms, attach the guns and sculpt the vines then paint. I'm still working on the root hound but may just use the bits from the dryad sprue to make roots and call it good. I will post more pics later to include the initial mock up of the tree kin.
The Karmans haven't arrived yet so nothing new on that. Like I titled this post...it's an exercise in paitience.
More to follow,
Silver

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