1850pts Tournament List

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Tanno
Shas'Saal
Posts: 24

1850pts Tournament List

Post#1 » Feb 21 2017 02:20

So in a couple of months i will be attending my first competitive 40k event. I have no idea what the meta will be like
My goal is to place middle of the field. Units with nicknames above them are for quick reference where their would be confusion
FYI: I know this list is doomed against a knight heavy list or something similar

+++ Tournament (Warhammer 40,000 7th Edition v2022) (1850pts) +++

++ Formation Detachment (Tau Empire: Codex (2015) v2009) (1134pts) ++

+ Uncategorised +

········Farsight Enclaves

+ Formation (1134pts) +

········Retaliation Cadre (1134pts)
············Commander
················XV8 Commander Crisis Suit [Fusion Blades, Puretide Engram Neurochip, Shield Generator, Stimulant Injector, Twin-linked Fusion Blaster, XV8-02 Crisis 'Iridium' Battlesuit]

············XV104 Riptide Battlesuits [Bonding Knife Ritual]
················Riptide Shas'vre [Ion Accelerator, Stimulant Injector, Target Lock, Twin-linked Plasma Rifle]
················Riptide Shas'vre [Earth Caste Pilot Array, Heavy Burst Cannon, Stimulant Injector, Twin-linked Plasma Rifle]

········(Martyrdom 1)
········XV8 Crisis Battlesuits [Bonding Knife Ritual]
················Crisis Shas'ui [2x Flamer]

········(Martyrdom 2)
············XV8 Crisis Battlesuits [Bonding Knife Ritual]
················Crisis Shas'ui [2x Flamer]

········(Dakka Squad)
············XV8 Crisis Battlesuits [Bonding Knife Ritual]
················Crisis Shas'ui [Missile Pod, 2x Plasma Rifle]
················Crisis Shas'ui [Missile Pod, 2x Plasma Rifle]
················Crisis Shas'ui [Missile Pod, 2x Plasma Rifle]


············XV88 Broadside Battlesuits [Bonding Knife Ritual]
················Broadside [Twin-linked Heavy Rail Rifle, Twin-linked Smart Missile System, Velocity Tracker]
················Broadside [Target Lock, Twin-linked Heavy Rail Rifle, Twin-linked Smart Missile System, Velocity Tracker]

++ Combined Arms Detachment (Tau Empire: Codex (2015) v2009) (716pts) ++

+ Uncategorised +

········Farsight Enclaves

+ HQ (60pts) +

········Ethereal (60pts) [Honour Blade, Recon Armour]

+ Troops (600pts) +

········(Guardian Team)
········Strike Team (217pts) [Bonding Knife Ritual, 9x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle, MV36 Guardian Drone]
············Fire Warrior Shas'ui [Pulse Rifle]
············TY7 Devilfish [2x MV1 Gun Drone, Disruption Pod]

········(Bastion Team)
········Strike Team (227pts) [Bonding Knife Ritual, 10x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle, MV36 Guardian Drone]
············Fire Warrior Shas'ui [Pulse Rifle]
············TY7 Devilfish [2x MV1 Gun Drone, Disruption Pod]

········(Bodyguard Team)
········XV8 Crisis Battlesuits (156pts) [Bonding Knife Ritual]
············Crisis Shas'ui [Fusion Blaster, Shield Generator, Stimulant Injector]
············Crisis Shas'ui [Fusion Blaster, Shield Generator, Stimulant Injector]

+ Fast Attack (56pts) +

········Pathfinder Team (56pts) [Bonding Knife Ritual, EMP Grenades, 4x Pathfinder]

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So Basic deployment is that the two D-fish units with the ethereal having joined Guardian team sit in my deployment zone in cover so as to jump out to secure objectives if necessary and the pathfinders bunker down somewhere and fire marker-lights so as to improve accuracy and deny cover saves for High Value Targets. Bodyguard team joins the commander with the rest of the Retaliation Cadre in reserve. When turn 2 hits the goal is to strike hard and fast and cripple as much of the enemy as posable with the martyrdom suits flaming as much infantry as possible while the Dakka suits hit his medium and heavy infantry with the broadsides hinting heavy Armour or flyers (threat dependent) along with the commander and bodyguard team on heavy Armour killing duty. the riptide just shoot whatever else need cleaned up or hit another HVT.

Any thoughts or criticisms.
CnC is welcome, many thanks Tanno :fear:

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Raverrn
Shas'La
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Re: 1850pts Tournament List

Post#2 » Feb 22 2017 11:04

Things that stand out to me:

1. The HBC 'tide might be better with SMS instead of Plasma - It might match your targets a little better.
2. The 'Dakka' squad is probably overarmed. They're deep-striking, so range isn't much of an issue. 2x Plasma is a decent loadout, or for some flexibility Plasma/Fusion. If you'd prefer to stay at arm's reach you want to go all-in, so 2x Missile. If you can find the ~70 points for a Shas'vre with CnC and MSS that unit puts out a pretty absurd amount of AV firepower from a very safe distance.
3. Velocity Trackers probably don't belong on Broadsides. But they absolutely positively don't belong on HRR Broadsides! If you can switch those for HYMP and add EWO they're suboptimal but not awful. Without the EWO they're marginal, as things like a Crimson Hunter can come in and kill your whole squad before you can return fire! Your HBC Riptide is probably a better AA unit, all said - doubly so if it has an SMS.
4. Recon Armor is probably a huge waste, and the Honor Blade definitely is.
5. I prefer SMS on my Devilfish for cleanup duty and Hail Mary shots on flyers. YMMV, but they'll probably do more work than the drones.
6. Using the bodyguard squad to soak wounds is a pretty poor idea, despite the name. Consider one of those models has ~2.5 wounds (on average-ish passing one FnP roll) with a 4++ save. That's ~40 points per wound. A Shield Drone with a 4++ is 12 points per wound, and as a bonus doesn't really much care about ID weapons! I'd recommend a squad with Flamers if you want to get your HQ in combat, with Vectored Retros and a few drones for soaking wounds and being I4 for Hit and Run.

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Tanno
Shas'Saal
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Re: 1850pts Tournament List

Post#3 » Feb 22 2017 01:57

Is this something more competitive/ less bad :biggrin:

+++ Tournament (Warhammer 40,000 7th Edition v2022) (1849pts) +++

++ Formation Detachment (Tau Empire: Codex (2015) v2009) (1085pts) ++

+ Uncategorised +

········Farsight Enclaves

+ Formation (1085pts) +

········Retaliation Cadre (1085pts)
············Commander
················XV8 Commander Crisis Suit [Blacksun Filter, Fusion Blades, Multi-Tracker, Puretide Engram Neurochip, Shield Generator, Twin-linked Fusion Blaster, XV8-02 Crisis 'Iridium' Battlesuit]

············XV104 Riptide Battlesuits [Bonding Knife Ritual]
················Riptide Shas'vre [Ion Accelerator, Riptide Shield Generator, Stimulant Injector, Target Lock, Twin-linked Plasma Rifle]
····················Riptide Battlesuit [Blacksun Filter, Multi-tracker]
················Riptide Shas'vre [Earth Caste Pilot Array, Heavy Burst Cannon, Riptide Shield Generator, Twin-linked Smart Missile System, Velocity Tracker]
····················Riptide Battlesuit [Blacksun Filter, Multi-tracker]

············XV8 Crisis Battlesuits [Bonding Knife Ritual]
················Crisis Shas'ui [2x Flamer]
····················Crisis Battlesuit [Blacksun Filter, Multi-Tracker]

············XV8 Crisis Battlesuits [Bonding Knife Ritual]
················Crisis Shas'ui [2x Missile Pod, Velocity Tracker]
····················Crisis Battlesuit [Blacksun Filter, Multi-Tracker]
················Crisis Shas'ui [2x Missile Pod, Velocity Tracker]
····················Crisis Battlesuit [Blacksun Filter, Multi-Tracker]

············XV8 Crisis Battlesuits [Bonding Knife Ritual]
················Crisis Shas'ui [2x Plasma Rifle]
····················Crisis Battlesuit [Blacksun Filter, Multi-Tracker]
················Crisis Shas'ui [2x Plasma Rifle]
····················Crisis Battlesuit [Blacksun Filter, Multi-Tracker]

············XV88 Broadside Battlesuits [Bonding Knife Ritual]
················Broadside [Advanced Targeting System, Twin-linked Heavy Rail Rifle, Twin-linked Smart Missile System]
····················Broadside Battlesuit [Blacksun Filter, Multi-tracker]
················Broadside [Advanced Targeting System, Target Lock, Twin-linked Heavy Rail Rifle, Twin-linked Smart Missile System]
····················Broadside Battlesuit [Blacksun Filter, Multi-tracker]

++ Combined Arms Detachment (Tau Empire: Codex (2015) v2009) (764pts) ++

+ Uncategorised +

········Farsight Enclaves

+ HQ (50pts) +

········Ethereal (50pts)

+ Troops (444pts) +

········Strike Team (217pts) [Bonding Knife Ritual, 9x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle, MV36 Guardian Drone, Photon Grenades]
············Fire Warrior Shas'ui [Pulse Rifle]
············TY7 Devilfish [2x MV1 Gun Drone, Burst Cannon, Disruption Pod]

········Strike Team (227pts) [Bonding Knife Ritual, 10x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle, MV36 Guardian Drone, Photon Grenades]
············Fire Warrior Shas'ui [Pulse Rifle]
············TY7 Devilfish [2x MV1 Gun Drone, Burst Cannon, Disruption Pod]

+ Fast Attack (270pts) +

········XV109 Y'vahra Battlesuit [FW] (270pts) [Early Warning Override, Flechette Dispersal Pods, Ionic Discharge Cannon, Phased Plasma-Flamer, Ravelin Shield Generator, Stimulant Injector, Vectored Thrust Array, Y'vahra battlesuit]

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Same General idea goes

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Tanno
Shas'Saal
Posts: 24

Re: 1850pts Tournament List

Post#4 » Apr 19 2017 02:44

OK
So if you will forgive the double post but this is the current iteration of my list.
All comments a criticisms are welcome. :D



++ Formation Detachment (Tau Empire: Codex (2015)) [1128pts] ++

+ Uncategorised +

Farsight Enclaves

+ Formation +

Retaliation Cadre [1128pts]
. Commander
. . XV8 Commander Crisis Suit: Command and Control Node, Flamer, Multi-spectrum Sensor Suite, Shield Generator, Stimulant Injector
. XV104 Riptide Battlesuits: Bonding Knife Ritual
. . Riptide Shas'vre: Earth Caste Pilot Array, Heavy Burst Cannon, Stimulant Injector, Twin-linked Plasma Rifle
. . Riptide Shas'vre: Ion Accelerator, Stimulant Injector, Target Lock, Twin-linked Plasma Rifle
. XV8 Crisis Battlesuits: Bonding Knife Ritual
. . Crisis Shas'ui: 2x Fusion Blaster, Target Lock
. . Crisis Shas'ui: 2x Fusion Blaster, Target Lock
. XV8 Crisis Battlesuits: Bonding Knife Ritual
. . Crisis Shas'ui: 2x Flamer, Stimulant Injector
. . Crisis Shas'ui: 2x Flamer, Stimulant Injector
. XV8 Crisis Battlesuits: Bonding Knife Ritual
. . Crisis Shas'ui: Advanced Targeting System, 2x Missile Pod
. . Crisis Shas'ui: Advanced Targeting System, 2x Missile Pod
. XV88 Broadside Battlesuits: Bonding Knife Ritual
. . Broadside: Twin-linked Heavy Rail Rifle, Twin-linked Smart Missile System, Velocity Tracker
. . Broadside: Twin-linked Heavy Rail Rifle, Twin-linked Smart Missile System, Velocity Tracker

++ Combined Arms Detachment (Tau Empire: Codex (2015)) [719pts] ++

+ Uncategorised +

Farsight Enclaves

+ HQ +

Ethereal [50pts]

+ Troops +

Strike Team [185pts]: Bonding Knife Ritual, MV36 Guardian Drone
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Pulse Rifle
. 6x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle
. TY7 Devilfish: 2x MV1 Gun Drone, Disruption Pod

Strike Team [173pts]: Bonding Knife Ritual
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Pulse Rifle
. 6x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle
. TY7 Devilfish: 2x MV1 Gun Drone, Disruption Pod

XV8 Crisis Battlesuits [78pts]: Bonding Knife Ritual
. Crisis Shas'ui: 2x Cyclic Ion Blaster, Shield Generator

+ Fast Attack +

Pathfinder Team [48pts]: Bonding Knife Ritual, 4x Pathfinder

+ Heavy Support +

TX7 Hammerhead Gunships [185pts]
. TX7 Hammerhead Gunship: Disruption Pod, Longstrike, Railgun, Twin-linked Smart Missile System

++ Total: [1847pts] ++

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Lay all of the criticisms on me. :P

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Shas'Saal
Posts: 36

Re: 1850pts Tournament List

Post#5 » Apr 20 2017 10:31

Issues 1 and 3 from Raverrn's post still stand.
I'd split up your riptide unit (too much chance of getting caught in combat)
Who is the buffmander going to be buffing? Given you're short on markerlights he might work better as a Mark'O
Personally I'd take more models than the stims and the shield generator (more firewarriors mainly)
And as a niggle you don't need target locks on both tue fusion suits if they're the only models in the unit.

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Tanno
Shas'Saal
Posts: 24

Re: 1850pts Tournament List

Post#6 » Apr 22 2017 12:16

Re arrangement of units and refocusing

++ Formation Detachment (Tau Empire: Codex (2015)) [1009pts] ++

+ Uncategorised +

Farsight Enclaves

+ Formation +

Retaliation Cadre [1009pts]
. Commander
. . XV8 Commander Crisis Suit: Command and Control Node, Flamer, Multi-spectrum Sensor Suite, Shield Generator, XV8-02 Crisis 'Iridium' Battlesuit
. XV104 Riptide Battlesuits: Bonding Knife Ritual
. . Riptide Shas'vre: Ion Accelerator, Stimulant Injector, Twin-linked Plasma Rifle
. XV8 Crisis Battlesuits: Bonding Knife Ritual
. . Crisis Shas'ui: 2x Fusion Blaster, Vectored Retro-Thrusters
. XV8 Crisis Battlesuits: Bonding Knife Ritual
. . Crisis Shas'ui: 2x Fusion Blaster, Velocity Tracker
. XV8 Crisis Battlesuits: Bonding Knife Ritual
. . Crisis Shas'ui: 2x Missile Pod, Target Lock
. . Crisis Shas'ui: 2x Missile Pod, Target Lock
. . Crisis Shas'ui: 2x Plasma Rifle, Shield Generator
. . Crisis Shas'ui: 2x Plasma Rifle, Shield Generator
. . Crisis Shas'ui: 2x Plasma Rifle, Shield Generator
. XV88 Broadside Battlesuits: Bonding Knife Ritual
. . Broadside: Twin-linked Heavy Rail Rifle, Twin-linked Smart Missile System
. . Broadside: Twin-linked Heavy Rail Rifle, Twin-linked Smart Missile System

++ Combined Arms Detachment (Tau Empire: Codex (2015)) [840pts] ++

+ Uncategorised +

Farsight Enclaves

+ HQ +

Cadre Fireblade [60pts]

+ Elites +

XV104 Riptide Battlesuits [236pts]: Bonding Knife Ritual
. Riptide Shas'vre: Early Warning Override, Earth Caste Pilot Array, Heavy Burst Cannon, Twin-linked Smart Missile System, Velocity Tracker

+ Troops +

Strike Team [179pts]: Bonding Knife Ritual, MV36 Guardian Drone
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Pulse Rifle
. 5x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle
. TY7 Devilfish: 2x MV1 Gun Drone, Blacksun Filter, Disruption Pod

Strike Team [167pts]: Bonding Knife Ritual
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Pulse Rifle
. 5x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle
. TY7 Devilfish: 2x MV1 Gun Drone, Blacksun Filter, Disruption Pod

+ Heavy Support +

TX7 Hammerhead Gunships [198pts]
. TX7 Hammerhead Gunship: Automated Repair System, Decoy Launchers, Disruption Pod, Longstrike, Railgun with Submunitions, Twin-linked Smart Missile System

++ Total: [1849pts] ++

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