Apocalypse tomorrow 15K (2500 each)

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Kiran Tau
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Apocalypse tomorrow 15K (2500 each)

Post#1 » Aug 12 2017 09:36

So tomorrow i have an apocalypse game coming up. I have 2500 pts to build a list from. I have models for 8000 pts at my disposal so it is very hard to determine what to use. As described in the header, we are 6 on our side an we have all a lot models available, so we are splitting it equal. I hope you all can help me.

A bit on the teams: Our side has the most super heavies. We have a warhound, a stormhammer, valdor tank hunter and possibly another baneblade tank since the last guy is also playing Astra mili.
The other side is splitting their points but i know they have a heirophant and a knight, maybe they will have access to a baneblade, the knight player is playing skitarii, the rest of their team is space marines.

a quick overview of my models:
2 stormsurge
3 hammerheads
3 skyrays
5 devilfish (they cant count as hammerheads and somehulls are used for our tanks)
72 FW
40 something Gun drones
27 crisis
2 broadside
10 pathfinders
15 marker drones
13 stealth
Farsight
6 Riptides
3 firesight marksman
9 sniperdrones
10 shield drones.

my favorite so far:

++ Unbound Army (Faction) (T'au Empire) [135 PL, 2493pts] ++

+ HQ +

Commander: Drone controller, 3x Missile pod, 2x MV7 Marker Drone

Ethereal: Honour blade, Hover Drone

+ Elites +

XV104 Riptide Battlesuit: 2x Smart missile system, Advanced targeting system, Heavy burst cannon, Target lock

XV104 Riptide Battlesuit: 2x Smart missile system, Advanced targeting system, Heavy burst cannon, Target lock

XV104 Riptide Battlesuit: 2x Smart missile system, Advanced targeting system, Heavy burst cannon, Target lock

+ Fast Attack +

Tactical Drones : 10x MV4 Shield Drone

Tactical Drones : 12x MV1 Gun Drone

Tactical Drones : 12x MV1 Gun Drone

Tactical Drones : 12x MV7 Marker Drone

Tactical Drones : 12x MV1 Gun Drone

Lord of War

KV128 Stormsurge: 2x Burst cannon, Advanced targeting system, Cluster rocket system, 4x Destroyer missile, Early warning override, Pulse blastcannon, 2x Smart missile system, Stimulant injector

KV128 Stormsurge: 2x Burst cannon, Advanced targeting system, Cluster rocket system, 4x Destroyer missile, Early warning override, Pulse blastcannon, 2x Smart missile system, Stimulant injector

++ Total: [135 PL, 2493pts] ++

Another one have 5 riptides and lots of drones (no SS)... just because riptides are hard to take down especially if they are not their main target (Warhound/baneblades)

I have had trouble fitting a nice amount of crisis inside the roster in order for me to be satisfied...

[b] I hope you have, as always, great advise[\b]
Shas'el Au'taal Elan'B (Strong Shepherd)

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Panzer
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Re: Apocalypse tomorrow 15K (2500 each)

Post#2 » Aug 12 2017 09:42

Split the Drones in smaller units. Just take an additional Detachment for them if you need to.

I would advise against Riptides but I kinda want to see how they'll do in such a big game so I won't. I don't think the list is particularly strong without knowing the other players armies though.

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Kiran Tau
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Re: Apocalypse tomorrow 15K (2500 each)

Post#3 » Aug 12 2017 10:04

i know most of our side...
1 ynnari play with:
++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Aeldari - Ynnari) [91 PL, 1744pts] ++

+ HQ +
Archon: Huskblade, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter pistol
The Yncarne: Ancestors' Grace, Word of the Phoenix

+ Troops +
6 x Kabalite Warriors: (3x Kabalite Warrior, Kabalite Warrior with special weapon: Blaster, Sybarite: Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Splinter Rifle)

+ Elites +
Solitaire: Harlequin's Caress, Harlequin's Kiss

+ Heavy Support +
Ravager: Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance
Ravager: Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance
Ravager: Dark Lance, Dark Lance, Dark Lance

+ Dedicated Transport +
Raider: Dark Lance
Raider: Dark Lance
Raider: Dark Lance
Venom: Splinter Cannon, Splinter Cannon

+ Flyer +

Razorwing Jetfighter: 2 Dark Lances, Splinter Cannon
Razorwing Jetfighter: 2 Dark Lances, Splinter Cannon
Voidraven: Two dark scythes, Voidraven Missiles

++ Total: [116 PL, 2278pts] ++
1 Astra:
++ Brigade (CP +9) (Astra Militarum) [1559 Pts] ++

+ Troops +
Infantry Squad: Autocannon, Chainsword, Laspistol, Plasma Gun
Infantry Squad: Autocannon, Chainsword, Laspistol, Plasma Gun
Infantry Squad: Autocannon, Chainsword, Laspistol, Plasma Gun
Infantry Squad: Chainsword, Laspistol, Mortar, Plasma Gun
Infantry Squad: Chainsword, Laspistol, Mortar, Plasma Gun
Infantry Squad: Chainsword, Laspistol, Plasma Gun

+ Elites +

Command Squad: 4x Plasma Gun
Commissar: Boltgun
Master of Ordnance
Platoon Commander: Chainsword, Laspistol
Tech-Priest Enginseer: Servo-Arm (CM)

+ HQ +
Commissar Yarrick
Lord Castellan Creed
Primaris Psyker: Force Stave

+ Fast Attack +

Armored Sentinels: Armored Sentinel, Lascannon
Armored Sentinels: 2x Armored Sentinel, 2x Lascannon
Artemia Pattern Hellhound: Artemia Pattern Hellhound, Heavy Flamer

+ Heavy Support +

Basilisks: Basilisk, Heavy Bolter
Leman Russ Annihilator: Lascannon, twin lascannon

Leman Russ Annihilator: Lascannon, Twin lascannon

+ Lord of War +

Akurian Pattern Stormhammer: Lascannon, 6x Lascannon.
Valdor Tank Hunter [390 Pts]: Lascannon

++ Total: [2493 Pts] ++

First Marine:
++ Patrol Detachment (Imperium - Space Marines) ++

+ HQ +
2x Techmarine: Boltgun, Chainsword, Servo-arm

+ Troops +
3 x Intercessor Squad: 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant

+ Elites +
Primaris Apothecary: The Armour Indomitus

+ Heavy Support +
Hellblaster Squad: Plasma incinerator(4x Hellblaster, Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol)

+ Lord of War +
Warhound Scout Titan: 2x Titan inferno gun
Roboute Guilliman

++ Total: [128 PL, 2507pts] ++
Shas'el Au'taal Elan'B (Strong Shepherd)

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Re: Apocalypse tomorrow 15K (2500 each)

Post#4 » Aug 12 2017 10:21

If I were you, try to bring some Hammerheads as titan-killers, some XV8s for Alpha Strke, the Stormsurges because it's apocalypse, and Gun Drones to round it all off. Frankly I wouldn't bother with Fire Warriors because the enemy is going to play mainly Space Marines, and you probably don't need to much anti-light infantry.

HQ - Longstrike (220)
Elites - 3x XV8s; 6x Gun Drones (300)
Elites - 3x XV8s; 6x Gun Drones (300)
Elites - 3x XV8s; 6x Gun Drones (300)
Fast Attack - 10x Pathfinders (80)
Heavy Support - Hammerhead (200)
Heavy Support - Hammerhead (200)
Lord of War - Stormsurge (450)
Lord of War - Stormsurge (450)

Something like that? I'll leave the wargear to you, but that would be a solid group. Good anti-tank with Markerlights, good Lords of War options (deploy behind Astra Militarum infantry screen probably), and good deep-strike to clear out Space Marines. Bring Plasma, or CIBs.

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Kiran Tau
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Re: Apocalypse tomorrow 15K (2500 each)

Post#5 » Aug 12 2017 12:09

@Arka0415 I don't think it is necessary to bring the hammerhead, and i find the one-shot being too little, and a lucky invul happens a bit too often not to say the dreaded 1 that seems to hower over hammerhead dice. Our side has the most superheavies, as stated, so further the anti-SH-firepower may be too much... I know its just a game, but fluff wise i feel that there should be Firewarriors and stealth and ... i guess that i have to ditch either riptides or SS i order to be a little more fluffy ;)
Shas'el Au'taal Elan'B (Strong Shepherd)

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Kiran Tau
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Re: Apocalypse tomorrow 15K (2500 each)

Post#6 » Aug 12 2017 02:21

So i have ended with the following list, where there is a lot of infantry, and lots of drones..


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (T'au Empire) ++

+ HQ +

Cadre Fireblade: Markerlight, 2 x MV7 Marker Drone

Commander: Drone controller, 3 x Missile pod, 2 x MV7 Marker Drone

Ethereal: Honour blade, Hover Drone, 2 x MV7 Marker Drone

+ Troops +

3 x Strike Team: 2x MV7 Marker Drone
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Markerlight, Pulse rifle
. 11x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle

+ Elites +

XV104 Riptide Battlesuit: 2x Smart missile system, Advanced targeting system, Heavy burst cannon, Stimulant injector

2 x XV25 Stealth Battlesuits [12 PL, 234pts]
. 4 x Stealth Shas'ui: Advanced targeting system, Burst cannon
. Stealth Shas'ui: Burst cannon, Drone controller
. Stealth Shas'vre: Advanced targeting system, Burst cannon, Markerlight + Target Lock

+ Fast Attack +

3 x Tactical Drones: 12x MV1 Gun Drone

++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (T'au Empire) ++

+ Lord of War +

KV128 Stormsurge: 2x Burst cannon, Advanced targeting system, Cluster rocket system, Counterfire defence system, 4x Destroyer missile, Pulse blastcannon, 2x Smart missile system, Stimulant injector

++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (T'au Empire) ++

+ Lord of War +

KV128 Stormsurge: 2x Burst cannon, Advanced targeting system, Cluster rocket system, Counterfire defence system, 4x Destroyer missile, Pulse blastcannon, 2x Smart missile system, Stimulant injector

++ Total: [138 PL, 2539pts] ++
Shas'el Au'taal Elan'B (Strong Shepherd)

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Re: Apocalypse tomorrow 15K (2500 each)

Post#7 » Aug 12 2017 08:56

Looks solid! I'd avoid bringing too many tiny Drone squads though- instead of so many tiny Marker Drone groups, why not bring Pathfinders? Also, remember to bring a Target Lock on the Riptide, you'll need it. Here's a simple modification to the list:

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HQ - Cadre Fireblade w/ Markerlight (42)
HQ - Ethereal on Hover Drone (50)
HQ - Commander w/ 3x Missile Pods, ATS (156)
Troops - 12x Fire Warriors w/ 1x Markerlight (99)
Troops - 12x Fire Warriors w/ 1x Markerlight (99)
Troops - 12x Fire Warriors w/ 1x Markerlight (99)
Elites - Riptide w/ Heavy Burst Cannon, 2x SMS, Target Lock, ATS (324)
Elites - 6x Stealthsuits w/ 6x Burst Cannons, 6x ATS (228)
Fast Attack - 12x Gun Drones (96)
Fast Attack - 12x Gun Drones (96)
Fast Attack - 12x Gun Drones (96)
Fast Attack - 10x Pathfinders w/ 3x Rail Rifles (137)
Lord of War - Stormsurge w/ Pulse Driver Cannon, Cluster Rocket System, 4x Destroyer Missiles, 2x Burst Cannon, 2x SMS, Shield Generator, ATS, EWO (494)
Lord of War - Stormsurge w/ Pulse Driver Cannon, Cluster Rocket System, 4x Destroyer Missiles, 2x Burst Cannon, 2x SMS, Shield Generator, ATS, EWO (494)

Total: 2540 - Command Points: 7 (1 Battalion Detachment, 1 Outrider Detachment, 2 Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachments)

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What do you think?

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Kiran Tau
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Re: Apocalypse tomorrow 15K (2500 each)

Post#8 » Aug 15 2017 03:26

So the game ended in a win for my team, our warhound died turn 1 and lit looked a bit grim, but trough two solid flanks and bad target priority from our opponents we turned it around... the two stormsurges to a lot of heat and died in melee, one to choppers and power claws and the other to a heirodule? and genestealers in turn 2 and 3. The Riptide had to transfer a lot of wound to the drones but in the end it survived with one wound before my opponents conceded... my flank got the reserved tyranid force in the head in turn 2, consisting of 2 trygons with hormagaunts and 20 genestealers, 5 raveneers and the swarmlord in droppod, on this flank was also the 1 remaining heirodule (yes there was 2) a knight (gatling and rapid battlecannon), 2 lascannon dreads and a dunecrawler... i had the assistance of a stormhammer and 2 annihilator russ and some imperialguard men...

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