2k list vs Chaos

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Mysado
Shas'Saal
Posts: 6

2k list vs Chaos

Post#1 » Sep 27 2017 01:37

Hello everyone. In a week or something i'm going to play against our main chaos player in local club.
We agreed to a 2k point limit, i have no idea what missions we will be playing (propably we'll roll dices for missions). We will have rule for kill points that player that scored more of them get 1VP.

He will propably take Titan (or 2), havocks and obliterators as he take them almost all the time.

I made this list having in mind that he will propably have lots of tougher stuff so i'll need loots of AP.

Fireblade is going to stick with 4 units of drones and Stealth Unit and run around and shoot stuff.
Breachers will be followed by Ethereal and being granted either reroll advance or FNP (i'm not taking Fish or other tanks as i really don't want them. Fluff stuff)
QFC will drop somewhere where it will hurt, propably at turn 2 or even 3. Same with Vespids and Crisis Team.
Missilemander will sit back with Pathfinders if i get lucky and i will have some ruins where i can fit them all. If not, i will spread them on board. Hounds are there as meat wall to prevent turn 1 alpha strike and charges. Ghostkeel will keep my flank secure and go where he will be needed.
Missilemander will be my Warlord with FNP.
I have many drops (almost 30) because even if i wanted to thin it, i'm going to sit with ~20 so it don't make much difference. And i wanted more flexibility.

I can take almost everything as i can proxy them (it's just casual game) but i don't want any stuff bigger than ghostkeel and tanks/flyers or QFC spam.
I'm worried that if he takes 2 titans then i will have hard time taking them out.


++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (T'au Empire) [36 PL, 490pts] ++

+ HQ +

Cadre Fireblade [2 PL, 42pts]

[b]+ Elites +


XV95 Ghostkeel Battlesuit [10 PL, 181pts]: 2x Burst cannon, Advanced targeting system, Cyclic ion raker, 2x MV5 Stealth Drone, Target lock

+ Fast Attack +

Kroot Hounds [2 PL, 24pts]

Kroot Hounds [2 PL, 24pts]

Pathfinder Team [6 PL, 48pts]
. 5x Pathfinder: 5x Markerlight, 5x Photon grenades, 5x Pulse carbine
. Pathfinder Shas'ui: Markerlight, Photon grenades, Pulse carbine, Pulse pistol

Tactical Drones [4 PL, 48pts]
. 4x MV1 Gun Drone: 8x Pulse carbine
. 2x MV4 Shield Drone: 2x Shield generator

Tactical Drones [4 PL, 48pts]
. 4x MV1 Gun Drone: 8x Pulse carbine
. 2x MV4 Shield Drone: 2x Shield generator

Vespid Stingwings [6 PL, 75pts]
. 4x Vespid Stingwing: 4x Neutron blaster
. Vespid Strain Leader: Neutron blaster

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (T'au Empire) [22 PL, 291pts] ++

+ HQ +

Ethereal [2 PL, 45pts]: Honour blade

+ Fast Attack +

Tactical Drones [4 PL, 48pts]
. 4x MV1 Gun Drone: 8x Pulse carbine
. 2x MV4 Shield Drone: 2x Shield generator

Tactical Drones [4 PL, 48pts]
. 4x MV1 Gun Drone: 8x Pulse carbine
. 2x MV4 Shield Drone: 2x Shield generator

Vespid Stingwings [6 PL, 75pts]
. 4x Vespid Stingwing: 4x Neutron blaster
. Vespid Strain Leader: Neutron blaster

Vespid Stingwings [6 PL, 75pts]
. 4x Vespid Stingwing: 4x Neutron blaster
. Vespid Strain Leader: Neutron blaster

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (T'au Empire) [63 PL, 1219pts] ++

+ HQ +

Commander [6 PL, 156pts]: Advanced targeting system, 3x Missile pod

Commander [7 PL, 176pts]: 4x Fusion blaster
. 2x MV4 Shield Drone: 2x Shield generator

+ Troops +

Breacher Team [3 PL, 40pts]
. 4x Fire Warrior: 4x Photon grenades, 4x Pulse blaster
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Photon grenades, Pulse blaster, Pulse pistol

Breacher Team [3 PL, 40pts]
. 4x Fire Warrior: 4x Photon grenades, 4x Pulse blaster
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Photon grenades, Pulse blaster, Pulse pistol

Breacher Team [3 PL, 40pts]
. 4x Fire Warrior: 4x Photon grenades, 4x Pulse blaster
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Photon grenades, Pulse blaster, Pulse pistol

Breacher Team [3 PL, 40pts]
. 4x Fire Warrior: 4x Photon grenades, 4x Pulse blaster
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Photon grenades, Pulse blaster, Pulse pistol

+ Elites +

XV25 Stealth Battlesuits [6 PL, 111pts]
. 2x Stealth Shas'ui w/ Shield generator: 2x Burst cannon, 2x Shield generator
. Stealth Shas'vre: Burst cannon, Drone controller

XV8 Crisis Battlesuits [14 PL, 298pts]
. Crisis Shas'ui: Advanced targeting system, 2x Cyclic ion blaster
. Crisis Shas'ui: Advanced targeting system, 2x Cyclic ion blaster
. Crisis Shas'vre: Advanced targeting system, 2x Cyclic ion blaster
. 5x MV4 Shield Drone: 5x Shield generator

+ Fast Attack +

Pathfinder Team [6 PL, 76pts]
. 4x Pathfinder: 4x Markerlight, 4x Photon grenades, 4x Pulse carbine
. 3x Pathfinder w/ Ion Rifle: 3x Ion rifle, 3x Photon grenades

Pathfinder Team [6 PL, 121pts]
. 4x Pathfinder: 4x Markerlight, 4x Photon grenades, 4x Pulse carbine
. Pathfinder Shas'ui: Markerlight, Photon grenades, Pulse carbine, Pulse pistol
. 3x Pathfinder w/ Rail Rifle: 3x Photon grenades, 3x Rail rifle

Pathfinder Team [6 PL, 121pts]
. 4x Pathfinder: 4x Markerlight, 4x Photon grenades, 4x Pulse carbine
. Pathfinder Shas'ui: Markerlight, Photon grenades, Pulse carbine, Pulse pistol
. 3x Pathfinder w/ Rail Rifle: 3x Photon grenades, 3x Rail rifle

++ Total: [121 PL, 2000pts] ++

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Arka0415
Shas'Ui
Shas'Ui
Posts: 2184

Re: 2k list vs Chaos

Post#2 » Oct 02 2017 07:16

This is a very solid list- we can improve the efficiency in a couple of places. First, I think you should swap the Breachers for regular Fire Warriors- a few squads of foot Breachers aren't going to do much work, I think. Also, you have too many Pathfinders, and too little anti-tank. You said you're willing to proxy anything but tanks and Commanders- what models do you have? It'd be hard to make anti-tanks suggestions without knowing what's available to you.

Also, on tactics- you need to drop in your units as soon as possible. Wait, and you waste shooting.

Anyway, let me know what battlesuits and tanks you have and we can definitely improve this list!

Mysado
Shas'Saal
Posts: 6

Re: 2k list vs Chaos

Post#3 » Nov 20 2017 05:16

Sorry for late reply, i forgot to check forum :)
From what i remember i just went on with this list. He played Death Guard with Mortarion, 2 mortars, predator, some pox, death guard marines and few DG characters.
Ghostkeel was real MVP of the game, he took out predator, mortar, wounded Mortarion and survived whole round of combat with him. Sadly QFC was almost useless :D
Breachers were okay, wounded Mortarion few times and killed few marines.
Special weapons of Pathfinders also were pretty good and dished lot of hurt.
All in all i won 11-9. His first defeat in 8ed :)

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Arka0415
Shas'Ui
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Re: 2k list vs Chaos

Post#4 » Nov 20 2017 07:38

Mysado wrote:All in all i won 11-9. His first defeat in 8ed :)

Well done then!! Glad you enjoyed the list. In the future any changes you're thinking about making?

Mysado
Shas'Saal
Posts: 6

Re: 2k list vs Chaos

Post#5 » Nov 21 2017 04:46

If i want to play more competetively i will use crisis as commanders, if not they will stay as they are.
I didn't liked gun drones, shoot closest target is big limitation. I used 20fw with fireblade in few recent matches and they performed far better, few hotshots at more distant targets and tripple dakka at 15" which means i'm standing in that sweet distance spot. Sure, they are squisher than drones and they cant fall out and shoot same turn but better LD and photon grenades (i remembered to use them recently and they worked wonders) are making up for it.

I think that i will use ion guns instead of rail on pathfinders, 30 points on squishy model is too much.
Breachers are fun unit but i will use either them or vespids, not both and even if, not in such amounts.
I forgot to add that i replaced guns on my ghostkeel, he went with fusions.

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