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Surviving-Blade
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T'ros Force Idea needs a List

Post#1 » Dec 21 2017 04:20

My Idea is an List with a lot of Fluff. But also strong on the Battlefield.
I collected some models now and I want to build a List to Play with my Friends :D
It should be about 1000 pts I don't know what is better: PL or pts???

I like pts more but my Friend say PL is better....
Need Advice.

So I fought about an Infiltration Cadre which was used during the Tauros Campaign to Locate weak points at the Enemy...
Is something Like that possible? What Limit of points would be good?

Here is my Model List:
Spoiler!
HQ
ShadowSun
2 Commander Suits
2 Ethereal
Darkstrider
Cadre Fireblade

Troops
97 Fire Warriors (I can build some more if Needed :D )

Elite
15 Ghost
1 Ghostkeel
8 Krisis
1 Riptide
1 Firesight Marksman

Fast
16 PF w Marker
7 PF w Rail
2 PF w Ion
2 Piranhas

Heavy
3 Broadsides
3 Sniperdrones

Transport
1 Devilfish

I got a List about 1000 pts here it is:


++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (T'au Empire) [27 PL, 430pts] ++

+ Dedicated Transport +

TY7 Devilfish [7 PL, 127pts]: 2x MV1 Gun Drone, Burst cannon

+ HQ +

Darkstrider [3 PL, 45pts]

+ Fast Attack +

Pathfinder Team [6 PL, 56pts]
. 3x Pathfinder: 3x Markerlight
. Pathfinder Shas'ui: Markerlight
. 2x Pathfinder w/ Ion Rifle: 2x Ion rifle

Pathfinder Team [3 PL, 40pts]
. 4x Pathfinder: 4x Markerlight
. Pathfinder Shas'ui: Markerlight

TX4 Piranhas [8 PL, 162pts]
. 2x TX4 Piranha w/ BC & 2x SM: 2x Burst cannon, 4x MV1 Gun Drone, 4x Seeker missile

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (T'au Empire) [33 PL, 690pts] ++

+ HQ +

Commander [7 PL, 176pts]: 4x Fusion blaster, 2x MV1 Gun Drone

+ Elites +

XV25 Stealth Battlesuits [6 PL, 116pts]: Homing beacon
. 3x Stealth Shas'ui w/ Multi-tracker: 3x Burst cannon, 3x Multi-tracker

XV25 Stealth Battlesuits [6 PL, 116pts]: Homing beacon
. 3x Stealth Shas'ui w/ Multi-tracker: 3x Burst cannon, 3x Multi-tracker

XV8 Crisis Battlesuits [14 PL, 282pts]: 6x MV1 Gun Drone
. Crisis Shas'ui: Cyclic ion blaster, 2x Flamer
. Crisis Shas'ui: Cyclic ion blaster, 2x Flamer
. Crisis Shas'ui: Cyclic ion blaster, 2x Flamer

++ Total: [60 PL, 1120pts] ++

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I would place Darkstrider and the pathfinder in the Devilfish to move Forward and the 2 Piranhas can clear the way...
Ghost will Infiltrate and as the PF will arrive they can move up as a Cadre...

If there would be Problems the Ghosts will drop the Beacon and a Force of 3 Krisis and a Commander will Drop to assist
the Survivors and to help them evacuating. This is the Fluffy Idea.

But I am 120 pts over 1000 and 380 below 1500 any Ideas?

1000 pts would be Better.

I will Infiltrate Blood Angels (they are Drop and/or Jetpack heavy )
so I need something to withstand their Charges :/

I hope you got some Ideas
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Re: T'ros Force Idea needs a List

Post#2 » Dec 21 2017 06:07

If you wanted to remove some models to hit 1,000 points I would "trim the fat". Here are some ideas:
* You only "need" one homing beacon. The Fusion Commander could drop 18" away from an enemy and only be slightly hampered for one turn. It's still 4 S8 Dd6 attacks.
* Seeker Missiles can be useful; but not so useful at 4+ Ballistic Skill.
* You might be able to cut one Piranhas from your force. The role of fast attack, and objective capturing is still valid.
* The Devilfish isn't doing all that much. Your Pathfinders are designed to operate at long range, and having them move will just reduce their efficiency.


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Stealth Suits can benefit a lot from the Advanced Targeting System or if you are Drone Heavy a Drone Controller. The Stealth Battlesuits are there to hunt down the perfect place for an ambush, and will assist in clearing everything.

When it comes to Blood Angels; they will come to you. Deploy defensively and force the Blood Angels to come to you; don't come to them.

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Re: T'ros Force Idea needs a List

Post#3 » Dec 21 2017 06:59

We Tau will do better at PL, but points are better for games. It looks like you have a very large collection- we can easily make a solid 1000-point list that's still a bit fluffy:

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HQ - Commander w/ 4x Fusion Blasters; 2x Shield Drones (176)
HQ - Cadre Fireblade w/ Markerlight (42)
HQ - Ethereal w/ Honour Blade (45)
Troops - 6x Fire Warriors w/ Markerlight (51)
Troops - 6x Fire Warriors w/ Markerlight (51)
Troops - 6x Fire Warriors w/ Markerlight (51)
Elites - 3x XV8s w/ 6x Cyclic Ion Blasters, 3x ATS; 6x Gun Drones (306)
Elites - 3x Stealthsuits w/ Fusion Blaster & Multi-Tracker, 2x Burst Cannons, Drone Controller, Homing Beacon (126)
Elites - 3x Stealthsuits w/ 3x Burst Cannons (90)
Fast Attack - 6x Pathfinders w/ 3x Markerlights, 3x Ion Rifles (60)

Total: 1000 - Command Points: 7 (1 Battalion Detachment, 1 Vanguard Detachment)

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What do you think?

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Surviving-Blade
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Re: T'ros Force Idea needs a List

Post#4 » Dec 21 2017 07:35

I like the List but imo it is not as Fluffy as I imagined :/

Yes the 7 Command Point are very Juicy but I don't like the Ethereal in an Infiltration Cadre and imo there are to much
Fire Warrior...

Can we drop some Fire Warrior and add some PF?
-6x Fire Warrior (-51)
-1x Ethereal (-45)

+ 6x Pathfinder w/5x Markerlight , 1x Rail Rifle(67)
and for the Stealthsuit 3x ATS(24)

So we are back at 1000 Points but now have only 4 Command Points... I am not sure if that is worth. :/
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Re: T'ros Force Idea needs a List

Post#5 » Dec 21 2017 07:51

Surviving-Blade wrote:I like the List but imo it is not as Fluffy as I imagined :/

Yes the 7 Command Point are very Juicy but I don't like the Ethereal in an Infiltration Cadre and imo there are to much
Fire Warrior...

Can we drop some Fire Warrior and add some PF?
-6x Fire Warrior (-51)
-1x Ethereal (-45)

+ 6x Pathfinder w/5x Markerlight , 1x Rail Rifle(67)
and for the Stealthsuit 3x ATS(24)

So we are back at 1000 Points but now have only 4 Command Points... I am not sure if that is worth. :/

Oh, I see! I didn't realize you'd already decided on the Infiltration Cadre idea. Yeah, we can do that! We should probably only do Commanders, Stealthsuits, Pathfinders, Drones, and then the "evac" squad of XV8s? Could be interesting!

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HQ - Commander w/ 4x Fusion Blasters; 2x Shield Drones (176)
Elites - 3x Stealthsuits w/ 3x Burst Cannons, 3x ATS, Homing Beacon (134)
Elites - 3x Stealthsuits w/ 3x Burst Cannons, 3x ATS (114)
Elites - Ghostkeel w/ Fusion Collider, 2x Fusion Blasters, Target Lock, Stimulant Injector; 2x Stealth Drones (205)
Elites - 3x XV8s w/ 6x Flamers, 3x Cyclic Ion Blasters; 6x Gun Drones (282)
Fast Attack - 5x Pathfinders w/ 5x Markerlights (40)
Fast Attack - 5x Pathfinders w/ 2x Markerlights, 3x Ion Rifles (52)

Total: 1003 - Command Points: 4 (1 Vanguard Detachment)

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So, something like that? What do you think?
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Re: T'ros Force Idea needs a List

Post#6 » Dec 22 2017 05:37

I very like the List, realy.

But there is a Problem with the Pathfinder...
The First 5 Man squad can not take 6 Markerlights and the second 5 Man squad can not take 3 Markerlights and 3 Ion Rifle

that's booth 6 in Total but only 5 Pathfinder...

I Guess the First squad has 5 PF (40) and the second 5 PF 2x Markerlight and 3x Ion Rifle (52)

I will give my Best to Paint these Models up and to field them either against Craftworld or Blood Angels or maybe against
AdMech with SM. But first painting :D
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Re: T'ros Force Idea needs a List

Post#7 » Dec 22 2017 05:59

Also don't forget that your Stealthsuits and Crisis suits should have a Shas'vre to delegate orders to the unit (as wel as a little added stats)

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Re: T'ros Force Idea needs a List

Post#8 » Dec 22 2017 06:33

Surviving-Blade wrote:The First 5 Man squad can not take 6 Markerlights and the second 5 Man squad can not take 3 Markerlights and 3 Ion Rifle

that's booth 6 in Total but only 5 Pathfinder...

I Guess the First squad has 5 PF (40) and the second 5 PF 2x Markerlight and 3x Ion Rifle (52)

Yes, that's just a typo. I've edited the original post.

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