1000 Points Stealth List: Tau

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SniperTau
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1000 Points Stealth List: Tau

Post#1 » Jan 29 2018 11:42

So, I, inspired by several stealthy lists floating around, decided to make up a smaller version for my (pretty much) weekly games. The list I've come up with is below.

Vanguard:

Commander:
4x Fusion Blasters, 2x Gun Drones (176)

Commander:
3x CIB, 1x ATS, 2x Gun Drones (154)

Stealth Suits x5:
5x Burst Cannon (150)

Stealth Suits x5:
5x Burst Cannon (150)

Ghostkeel:
2x Stealth Drones, Cyclic Ion Raker, 2x Burst Cannon, ATS, Target Lock (181)

Patrol:

Commander in Coldstar:
High-Output Burst Cannon, Missile Pod, ATS, Shield Generator (150)

Fire Warriors x5:
Pulse Pistol (40)

Thoughts?

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Krospgnasker
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Re: 1000 Points Stealth List: Tau

Post#2 » Jan 30 2018 12:21

I think your Ghostkeels and Stealth Suits will struggle with zero markerlight support, but maybe you're just using them to shield the Commanders?

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Re: 1000 Points Stealth List: Tau

Post#3 » Jan 30 2018 02:31

I just realised that. That's why I took a target lock on the Ghostkeel.

What about this:

Vanguard:

Commander:
4x Fusion Blasters, 2x Gun Drones (176)

Commander:
3x CIB, 1x ATS, 2x Gun Drones (154)

Stealth Suits x5:
5x Burst Cannon, 5x ATS (190)

Stealth Suits x5:
5x Burst Cannon, 5x ATS (190)

Ghostkeel:
CIR, 2x BC, ATS, TL (181)

Pathfinders x6:
5x Markerlight, 1x Ion Rifle (55)

Pathfinder x6:
5x Markerlight, 1x Ion Rifle (55)

Does this look a little better?

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Re: 1000 Points Stealth List: Tau

Post#4 » Jan 30 2018 08:18

I'm no tactical genius (Creeeeeed!), but it looks like a strong list to me. Do you have a general strategy to go with it?

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Arka0415
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Re: 1000 Points Stealth List: Tau

Post#5 » Feb 04 2018 08:49

Looks good to me. The large Stealthsuit squads will certainly be interesting on the battlefield. I would suggest dropping the Ion Rifles from the Pathfinders though, as they're probably not contributing much. Also, just so you know, an Ion Rifle only costs 4 points, not 7, because you have to drop a Markerlight to equip it- so those Pathfinder squads are 52 points, not 55.

At any rate, here's how I'd write up the list:

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HQ - Commander w/ 4x Fusion Blasters; 2x Gun Drones (176)
HQ - Commander w/ 3x Cyclic Ion Blasters; 2x Gun Drones (154)
Elites - 5x Stealthsuits w/ 5x Burst Cannons, 5x ATS (190)
Elites - 5x Stealthsuits w/ 5x Burst Cannons, 5x ATS (190)
Elites - Ghostkeel w/ Cyclic Ion Raker, 2x Burst Cannons, Target Lock, ATS; 2x Stealth Drones (181)
Fast Attack - 6x Pathfinders w/ 6x Markerlights (48)
Fast Attack - 6x Pathfinders w/ 3x Markerlights, 3x Ion Rifles (60)

Total: 999 - Command Points: 5 (1 Vanguard Detachment)

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I'll note though that dropping the Ion Rifles and ATS would give you 92 more points to spend, which is enough to easily build you a second detachment, or add a ton more firepower in. What do you think?

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Re: 1000 Points Stealth List: Tau

Post#6 » Feb 05 2018 12:05

Arka, I think I will drop the ion, but I will keep the ATS on the Commander, which is enough to pop some drones in to give the ghostkeel/stealth suits some extra survivability(not that they need it :P ). although, I could replace the ATS with a drone controller for those drones. I could also replace some pathfinders altogether. Here's what it would look like:

Commander: 4x Fusion Blaster, 2x Gun Drones (176)

Commander: 3x Cyclic Ion, 1x ATS/DC, 2x Gun Drones (154)

Stealth Suits x5: 5x Burst Cannon, 5x ATS (190)

Stealth Suits x5: 5x Burst Cannon, 5x ATS (190)

Ghostkeel: CIR, 2x BC, TL, ATS (181)

Pathfinders x5:
5x Markerlight (40)

Piranha:
Burst Cannon, 2x Gun Drones (71)

Total:
1,002 Points
4CP: Vanguard

Thoughts?

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Re: 1000 Points Stealth List: Tau

Post#7 » Feb 05 2018 12:49

SniperTau wrote:Commander: 4x Fusion Blaster, 2x Gun Drones (176)

Commander: 3x Cyclic Ion, 1x ATS/DC, 2x Gun Drones (154)

Stealth Suits x5: 5x Burst Cannon, 5x ATS (190)

Stealth Suits x5: 5x Burst Cannon, 5x ATS (190)

Ghostkeel: CIR, 2x BC, TL, ATS (181)

Pathfinders x5:
5x Markerlight (40)

Piranha:
Burst Cannon, 2x Gun Drones (71)

Total:
1,002 Points
4CP: Vanguard

The Piranha could definitely be an interesting choice. However, adding it (and keeping ATS on the Stealthsuits) just further reduces the bodycount in a close-range army that's (a) essentially drone-free, and (b) very weak to psyker powers and mortal wounds. If you want a Piranha here's how I'd do it:

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HQ - Commander w/ 4x Fusion Blasters; 2x Gun Drones (176)
HQ - Commander w/ 3x Cyclic Ion Blasters, ATS; 2x Gun Drones (154)
Elites - 5x Stealthsuits w/ 5x Burst Cannons; 2x Gun Drones (166)
Elites - 5x Stealthsuits w/ 5x Burst Cannons; 2x Gun Drones (166)
Elites - Ghostkeel w/ Cyclic Ion Raker, 2x Burst Cannons, Target Lock, ATS; 2x Stealth Drones (181)
Fast Attack - 5x Pathfinders w/ 5x Markerlights (40)
Fast Attack - 5x Pathfinders w/ 5x Markerlights (40)
Fast Attack - Piranha w/ Burst Cannon; 2x Gun Drones (71)

Total: 994 - Command Points: 5 (1 Vanguard Detachment, 1 Outrider Detachment)

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Still some points to spend too. What do you think?

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Re: 1000 Points Stealth List: Tau

Post#8 » Feb 05 2018 01:59

I like the list, but I really have liked ATS on the stealth suits so far this edition. If we shave one of the stealth squads down to four it'll leave us with almost enough for five ATS, and dropping the drones on the stealth suits (they'll be shot off the board first turn tbh), will give us another four ATS, which is perfect. Also an FYI, you are actually pricing the 3x CIB commander incorrectly. he should be 8pts cheaper without the ATS. I have not been very dependent on drones, I usually only take some to either boost my suits' survivability, or add bulk to a special pathfinder drone.

The Compromised List:

Commander: 4x FB, 2x Gun Drones (176)

Commander: 3x CIB, ATS, 2x Gun Drones (154)

4x Stealth Suits: 4x Burst Cannon, 4x ATS (152)

5x Stealth Suits: 5x Burst Cannon, 4x ATS (152)

Ghostkeel: 2x Stealth Drones, 2x Burst Cannon, Cyclic Ion Raker, Target Lock, ATS (181)

Pathfinders x5: 5x Markerlight (40)

Pathfinders x5: 5x Markerlight (40)

Piranha: 1x Burst Cannon, 2x Gun Drones (71)

Total:
1,004 Points

5 CP (Vanguard, Outrider) - another thing you calculated erroneously

Ps.
I play in a MEQ/TEQ heavy environment, that is why I like ATS on the stealth suits.

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Re: 1000 Points Stealth List: Tau

Post#9 » Feb 05 2018 02:15

SniperTau wrote:Commander: 4x FB, 2x Gun Drones (176)

Commander: 3x CIB, ATS, 2x Gun Drones (154)

4x Stealth Suits: 4x Burst Cannon, 4x ATS (152)

5x Stealth Suits: 5x Burst Cannon, 4x ATS (152)

Ghostkeel: 2x Stealth Drones, 2x Burst Cannon, Cyclic Ion Raker, Target Lock, ATS (181)

Pathfinders x5: 5x Markerlight (40)

Pathfinders x5: 5x Markerlight (40)

Piranha: 1x Burst Cannon, 2x Gun Drones (71)

Total:
1,004 Points

Sure, try it out! If you're taking 9 Stealthsuits, 3x3 might end up being more flexible, but go with what works best for you!

SniperTau wrote:Also an FYI, you are actually pricing the 3x CIB commander incorrectly. he should be 8pts cheaper without the ATS.

...another thing you calculated erroneously.

Just typos, edited in the original post. Obviously I'd never suggest a Commander with an open slot.

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