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Comments on the Official Tau Timeline

Post#1 » Aug 06 2009 12:30

The moderators have put their heads together and created a comprehensive timeline of historical Tau activity. Discuss here - and if you have any dates or events we missed, let us know! (Please include citation.)

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Post#2 » Aug 06 2009 12:41

hey- great work on the timeline and thanks for putting everyone's opinion being stated.

I'll look at some extra books that might have some info in them for you-

You've got the Kol'n Incident which has Shadowsun on a border colony mustering days before the launch of the 3rd Sphere- she gets attacked by Dark Eldar raiders.

303999.M41-Augara: massive defeat of Tau world where shipyards and fleets are destroyed by almost 1000 marines present. This is where the 3rd Sphere is halted. This is the end of the Zeist Campaign.

I know there's more but my brain is shutting down...

ah! The Tau'N campaign- later
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Post#3 » Aug 06 2009 12:45

The Zeist Campaign and Augara are already included.
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Post#4 » Aug 06 2009 01:25

oop- my bad- don't sleep either do you elliot?

What are you thoughts on including DOW?
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Post#5 » Aug 06 2009 01:33

I wouldn't be adverse to including "Dark Crusade", but "Soulstorm" is a no.
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Post#6 » Aug 06 2009 02:01

only out of curiosity- why one and not the other?
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Post#7 » Aug 06 2009 10:30

There were two campaigns that GW put out that are undated, but might be of interest for this timeline. There were: The Struggle fo Vor'anoth and The Colonisation of Fi'rios. Of course, GW has hidden them where I can no longer find them. The two star systems do show up on the 40K Starmap at http://www.joachim-adomeit.de/wh40k/spacemap/map.html



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Post#8 » Aug 06 2009 10:34

I forgot about those- Vor'anoth has got Tash'varian cadres helping out I think and I know that Fi'Rios was lead by Shas'O R'myr.
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Post#9 » Aug 06 2009 12:54

Calmsword wrote:only out of curiosity- why one and not the other?

Dark Crusade was a high quality piece of work done by Relic. Soulstorm was a piece-of-dung thrown out by Iron Lore, which promptly went out of business.



buffirn wrote:There were two campaigns that GW put out that are undated, but might be of interest for this timeline. There were: The Struggle fo Vor'anoth and The Colonisation of Fi'rios.

Because it is no longer available on GW's website, ATT has provided the original fluff for The Struggle of Vor'anoth within our Official Tau Background thread. Except that it is in the Second Phase expansion, we have no specific dates for Vor'anoth. I will include the piece in our timeline soon.

As for Fi'rios - the codex states it was a Third Sphere annexation, wrested from the Orks. The online campaign adds nothing to that information, as best I can remember. Calmsword, could you email me the PDF concerning O'R'myr, at TAUSTORIES at GMAIL.COM? I'd appreciate that.
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Post#10 » Aug 06 2009 01:27

Here you go, Elliott.

O'R'myr's rules and new background are posted on the Forge World website.

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I concur on the part of Dark Crusade vs. Soulstorm too.

Soulstorm simply had far too many inconsistencies to be a solid, reputable source of anything.

The Ar'ka Cannon alone was enough to bury the game for me. I mean come on, an interplanetary Ion Cannon? Puh-leaze.

The idea that the Tau could terraform (something canonically impossible for the Tau to accomplish, and a process thought nigh-impossible by any other major players than Eldar or Dark Age of Technology Mankind, excluding Chaos daemon worlds and Tyrannoformation) a portion of moonscape in a matter of months was the nail in the coffin...

Soulstorm Fluff = Crap

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Post#11 » Aug 06 2009 01:35

sent.

you know, when you splay it all out the timeline looks really good- i just wish they hadn't slapped Farsight and Shadowsun in the same room- that the only notably 'ancient' tau was Aun'va and, unusually, Farsight like it used to be.


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Post#12 » Aug 06 2009 01:52

the only reason i ask is because that might void some of the interesting fluff that did exist- such as the new tactic being developed (great strength great strike).

The thing about the Ar'ka cannon is that it walks that line between fluff and gameplay (i talked with you then Doom- i think it's farfetched) and i don't think it was terraformation but base-building, but i havn't seen that game in a while. The groundwork for the Kauruva system was... interesting- and i'm only playing devils advocate but i'd like to know now if we intend on ignoring it.

And what are we going to do about Medusa?

also, going through some books:

Dal'yth Gal'leath Kessan embarks with a major fleet on an expedition to the Enclaves with Por'O jess'l, a venerated biologist. I would speculate this is somewhat just before the 3rd Sphere.

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Post#13 » Aug 06 2009 02:40

I personally don't think the development of a 'new tactic' is enough to warrant its inclusion in the wider scope here.

Sure, you can reference it in other fluff, but to think that after thousands of years of conflict that they are only now developing as rudimentary a tactic as the 'Great Strength, Great Strike' is a discredit to the Shas, if anything.

Besides, there are many hundreds of 'tactics' and schools of the Shas'ken'to out there. Including Soulstorm just for that one tactic would seem to warrant including the Dolumar IV incident, if only for its mention of the Ken'rai and Mon'wern'a... So you can see the logic here, yes?

And yes, Soulstorm specifically stated the moon was terraformed. Not only terraformed, but locally terraformed at that, since the surrounding area outside the Tau region was devoid of atmosphere capable of sustaining life.

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IRT Medusa, I think we should include the events, but in my opinion leave it in the 'undated' section until GW officially advances the timeline past 999.M41.

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I assume Aun'shi went along on that expedition with Por'O Jess'l? He too, in the BFG fluff, was said to lead an expedition to the Enclaves...

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Post#14 » Aug 10 2009 12:36

Thanks to the efforts of Warlord Imp, our timeline now has a piece of information available from the White Dwarf article "A World of Warrior." Thanks!
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Post#15 » Jul 28 2013 11:25

It has been almost four years since I last posted in this thread, but I'm happy to announce that after hours of work, Doombringer and myself have recreated the official Tau timeline. Not only have we updated the timeline with all of the events from Codex: Tau Empire - 6th Edition and Codex: Farsight Enclaves, we also took great pains to format it for ease-of-reading. I think both its comprehensiveness and its beauty puts the old timeline to shame.

Sources that we have yet to incorporate:
  • Various Battlefleet Gothic pieces.
  • The most recent Ciaphas Cain books and short stories.
  • Some information from the works of Braden Campbell and Peter Fehervari.
  • Material from the Deathwatch roleplaying game.

If you know of any other official sources with dates, please feel free to bring them to our attention in this thread. If you find any grammatical errors or typos, feel free to send me a private message. I take great pride in this work and will fix any problems immediately.

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Post#16 » Jul 29 2013 08:43

Thank you for your hard work,
this resource is now really clear to read (previous wasn't bad, just appreciating the new work here :) ).

That's what I love ATT for. Always something interesting to read, with some of the best discussions the internet contains.

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Post#17 » Aug 03 2013 03:35

Thanks Doom, Lyi'ot,

I had two quick questions: The first, I don't see anything about the Firewarrior book and Kais. I was thinking the Dolumar incident would happen possibly at the beginning of the 'Great Reclamation' as the Ethereal in that book describes an end to the 'Dal'yth Treaty' and a concerted military reprisal against the Imperium.

Additionally, are you going to include the comic that included Cadians fighting Tau?
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Post#18 » Aug 03 2013 03:49

Calmsword, good question. I've tried to include only events that have very specific dates, or can be guessed at with a high degree of certainty. The conjectured date for N'dras' abandonment is about as uncertain as I'd like to go in the "main" timeline post. I'm not adverse to including a last post of undated/uncertain events, like we had in the previous iteration of the timeline.

  • Fire Warrior: Has there ever been any agreement about its date, outside of "some time after the Damocles Gulf Crusade"?
  • Comic: I assume you mean Fire & Honour? I don't think there are any specific dates. The presence of experimental systems might indicated that it takes place during the Third Sphere Expansion, but again, without any date I won't be putting it into the "main" timeline.

If you have more specific dates or information, let us know.

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