Comments on the Official Tau Timeline

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Calmsword
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Re: Comments on the Official Tau Timeline

Post#11 » Aug 06 2009 01:35

sent.

you know, when you splay it all out the timeline looks really good- i just wish they hadn't slapped Farsight and Shadowsun in the same room- that the only notably 'ancient' tau was Aun'va and, unusually, Farsight like it used to be.


sigh. Maybe the new Space Wolves book will help us, no?
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Re: Comments on the Official Tau Timeline

Post#12 » Aug 06 2009 01:52

the only reason i ask is because that might void some of the interesting fluff that did exist- such as the new tactic being developed (great strength great strike).

The thing about the Ar'ka cannon is that it walks that line between fluff and gameplay (i talked with you then Doom- i think it's farfetched) and i don't think it was terraformation but base-building, but i havn't seen that game in a while. The groundwork for the Kauruva system was... interesting- and i'm only playing devils advocate but i'd like to know now if we intend on ignoring it.

And what are we going to do about Medusa?

also, going through some books:

Dal'yth Gal'leath Kessan embarks with a major fleet on an expedition to the Enclaves with Por'O jess'l, a venerated biologist. I would speculate this is somewhat just before the 3rd Sphere.

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Re: Comments on the Official Tau Timeline

Post#13 » Aug 06 2009 02:40

I personally don't think the development of a 'new tactic' is enough to warrant its inclusion in the wider scope here.

Sure, you can reference it in other fluff, but to think that after thousands of years of conflict that they are only now developing as rudimentary a tactic as the 'Great Strength, Great Strike' is a discredit to the Shas, if anything.

Besides, there are many hundreds of 'tactics' and schools of the Shas'ken'to out there. Including Soulstorm just for that one tactic would seem to warrant including the Dolumar IV incident, if only for its mention of the Ken'rai and Mon'wern'a... So you can see the logic here, yes?

And yes, Soulstorm specifically stated the moon was terraformed. Not only terraformed, but locally terraformed at that, since the surrounding area outside the Tau region was devoid of atmosphere capable of sustaining life.

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IRT Medusa, I think we should include the events, but in my opinion leave it in the 'undated' section until GW officially advances the timeline past 999.M41.

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I assume Aun'shi went along on that expedition with Por'O Jess'l? He too, in the BFG fluff, was said to lead an expedition to the Enclaves...

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Re: Comments on the Official Tau Timeline

Post#14 » Aug 10 2009 12:36

Thanks to the efforts of Warlord Imp, our timeline now has a piece of information available from the White Dwarf article "A World of Warrior." Thanks!
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Re: Comments on the Official Tau Timeline

Post#15 » Jul 28 2013 11:25

It has been almost four years since I last posted in this thread, but I'm happy to announce that after hours of work, Doombringer and myself have recreated the official Tau timeline. Not only have we updated the timeline with all of the events from Codex: Tau Empire - 6th Edition and Codex: Farsight Enclaves, we also took great pains to format it for ease-of-reading. I think both its comprehensiveness and its beauty puts the old timeline to shame.

Sources that we have yet to incorporate:
  • Various Battlefleet Gothic pieces.
  • The most recent Ciaphas Cain books and short stories.
  • Some information from the works of Braden Campbell and Peter Fehervari.
  • Material from the Deathwatch roleplaying game.

If you know of any other official sources with dates, please feel free to bring them to our attention in this thread. If you find any grammatical errors or typos, feel free to send me a private message. I take great pride in this work and will fix any problems immediately.

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Re: Comments on the Official Tau Timeline

Post#16 » Jul 29 2013 08:43

Thank you for your hard work,
this resource is now really clear to read (previous wasn't bad, just appreciating the new work here :) ).

That's what I love ATT for. Always something interesting to read, with some of the best discussions the internet contains.

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Calmsword
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Re: Comments on the Official Tau Timeline

Post#17 » Aug 03 2013 03:35

Thanks Doom, Lyi'ot,

I had two quick questions: The first, I don't see anything about the Firewarrior book and Kais. I was thinking the Dolumar incident would happen possibly at the beginning of the 'Great Reclamation' as the Ethereal in that book describes an end to the 'Dal'yth Treaty' and a concerted military reprisal against the Imperium.

Additionally, are you going to include the comic that included Cadians fighting Tau?
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Re: Comments on the Official Tau Timeline

Post#18 » Aug 03 2013 03:49

Calmsword, good question. I've tried to include only events that have very specific dates, or can be guessed at with a high degree of certainty. The conjectured date for N'dras' abandonment is about as uncertain as I'd like to go in the "main" timeline post. I'm not adverse to including a last post of undated/uncertain events, like we had in the previous iteration of the timeline.

  • Fire Warrior: Has there ever been any agreement about its date, outside of "some time after the Damocles Gulf Crusade"?
  • Comic: I assume you mean Fire & Honour? I don't think there are any specific dates. The presence of experimental systems might indicated that it takes place during the Third Sphere Expansion, but again, without any date I won't be putting it into the "main" timeline.

If you have more specific dates or information, let us know.

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Re: Comments on the Official Tau Timeline

Post#19 » Aug 03 2013 05:02

I'll look it up- Fire and Honor doesn't have any dates and would be pure assumptions.

I'll look up Firewarrior ASAP, however, I'm pretty sure 'Aun'O Kath'lan is in communication with the forces around Dolumar and the Shas'Ar'Tol discusses the end of the ceasefire with humanity which would mean the 3rd Sphere, no?
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Re: Comments on the Official Tau Timeline

Post#20 » Aug 03 2013 06:20

Reviewing the Xenology Book (IIRC there was discussion about its material is canon or not), there was maybe another thing featured in.

121.842 M41 : O'Shovah went on the deserted imperial colony of Becuba's Hope and is told to do this "before he turn renegade".
(just after Tau dissection, legend of the same image than the 2001 Codex Tau p50, told to be taken by imperial datum drone. )

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I suspect that the last part of datum drone name "121842" is the time it was sent (121.842 M41).
This is speculation but there is clues that it seems true:
- At this time, Farsight has only started his rebellion for few years so imperial sources can be messed about the time he's gone rogue (but the interrogation log in the book is weird about that...). The old marking of TRUEFIRE can be also a misleading since it appears to be changed after for FARSIGHT on his new battlesuit.
- He already have the Dawn Blade at this time (with his "old-style" XV8).

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