How are Broadsides deployed?

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How are Broadsides deployed?

Post#1 » Jun 27 2017 10:22

I noticed that Broadsides can not be loaded into either Orcas or Manta. That said, how do they normally deploy to the battlefield?

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Re: How are Broadsides deployed?

Post#2 » Jun 27 2017 10:28

QimRas wrote:I noticed that Broadsides can not be loaded into either Orcas or Manta. That said, how do they normally deploy to the battlefield?


I assume there are specially-fitted dropships that carry Broadsides. From a gameplay standpoint, it would probably be too powerful to let a Broadside deep strike or deploy out of a dropship though. It's not that they can't be deployed from the air, it's that that ability would be too powerful to have in-game, I think.

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Re: How are Broadsides deployed?

Post#3 » Jun 27 2017 10:28

There are apparently special Manta types to deploy larger battlesuits like Riptides and Stormsurges, so same principle.

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Re: How are Broadsides deployed?

Post#4 » Jun 27 2017 10:57

QimRas wrote:I noticed that Broadsides can not be loaded into either Orcas or Manta. That said, how do they normally deploy to the battlefield?


Generally speaking the traditional method is, well, an Orca or a Manta. It pays to remember that the cargo compartment layout of an Orca or Manta is not fixed, and the transport capacity listed in the rules is only reflective of the standard layout (which is most common and thus makes the most sense to represent). The modular nature of Tau aerospace transports and use of molecular bonding for attachments allows an Orca or Manta cargo hold to be easily reconfigured for non-standard cargo - adapting either for transporting Broadsides is as easy as simply removing the infantry seats and other unneeded features.

Imperial Armour Volume III: The Taros Campaign further supports this claim:

Imperial Armour Volume III: The Taros Campaign (First Edition), pg. 175, 'Broadside Battlesuits' wrote:Carried in Orcas or Mantas, once deployed Broadsides, lacking jetpacks, are slow, so they must be deployed with care and only when an engagement was imminent. For accurate deployment Broadsides relied on good information from forward Pathfinder teams.

On Taros, Broadsides were widely deployed in support of Hunter Cadres on the defensive. They could not be deployed as part of the fast-moving Pathfinder raiding forces, or armoured counter-attack forces which might be required to operate in the deserts for many days, fighting and then quickly withdrawing, then moving to attack again. Instead, when an engagement was imminent, the Orcas or a Manta would quickly move the Broadsides into position, usually holding a ridgeline or an area of higher ground with good fields of fire.


Emphasis mine. It is also mentioned in Imperial Armour Volume III that Orcas are used for inserting Drone Sentry Turrets (and presumably Drone Sensor Towers as well). Previous rules for the Orca and Manta did allow them to transport Broadsides (a maximum of 3 and 25 respectively) to reflect this.

It's also notable that, if one accepts the Dawn of War games as accurate, Orcas are able to carry other oversize cargo such as a single large vehicle (presumably broken down into modular components and reassembled on site).

Finally, it also bears mentioning that Broadsides, along with all other Tau equipment, can be fitted with single-use disposable jetpacks to facilitate high-altitude airdrop insertions (which is the standard method of deployment from a Manta), but this rarely comes up in the rules outside of special scenario conditions.
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Re: How are Broadsides deployed?

Post#5 » Jun 27 2017 11:01

One thing to note is that in the time they wrote that fluff about deploying from Orca, Broadsides had a bit smaller model.

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Post#6 » Jun 27 2017 11:37

In 7th Edition we had the Retaliation Cadre which, amoung other things, featured Broadsides deploying via Manta using something called Grav Boosters. The in game effect was providing the Broadside with the Deep Strike and Relentless rules.

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Post#7 » Jun 28 2017 12:42

There is just no place in the game for Broadsides being able to get in Mantas/Orcas imo.
What we have ingame is normally the middle of a heated battle. That's not where Broadsides get deployed. They get deployed outside or before the battle begins. For mid-battle deployment we have Crisis and other units with the according special rule for reserves.
So while the Fluff may say they can get deployed by Manta or Orca, it just wouldn't fit in as rule in the context of what the actual game represents.

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Re: How are Broadsides deployed?

Post#8 » Jun 28 2017 06:15

Wow, got way more information and responses then expected. Thanks guys! Looks like I can use unladen Orcas to simulate their deployment in a narrative game.

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