Arka0415 wrote:Maapoezdae wrote:Hi all,
After reading this forum, watching batreps, and sitting for literal hours trying to work out the best crisis/commander combos for me, I came up with this. Keep in mind that this is not necessarily the absolute best, but I think (hopefully) that it's in some way viable (haven't had a chance to playtest it yet).
Origionally I had my commander as a mixed-bag, but I soon realised that this was waisting it's potential, and that I needed to focus on a role more. I decided to make him anti-vehicle/anti-high toughness, as I didn't have much of that in my army, however the CIBs offer the non-overcharged shots for a decent shot at more massed targets.
Shas'ui - 2xCIB, 1xFlamer
Shas'ui - 2x CIB, 1xFlamer
Shas'vre - 2x Fusion, 1x Drone Controller
4-6x Gun Drones
I felt that this could combat most armies relatively well when manta striking. Please give me any recommendations, as I want to improve before my first 8th Ed game in shop (have played a little against relatives, but their armies are pretty poor as they don't care about meta).
Of course, in previous editions it was a lot of fun to find weapon combinations that worked well for XV8s. Now we can split fire on any target(s) we like, so you'd think we'd want to have different weapons to engage different targets. However, the short range on our effective guns means that, while you can bring multiple different weapon types, it'll usually be hard to get in range of all the different targets you want to engage. Instead, consider bringing all of one weapon type (plus a few Flamers for overwatch if you like) and hunt down certain types of targets. Here are some builds that have been popular on ATT:
Commander w/ 4x Fusion Blasters; 2x Shield Drones (176)
Commander w/ 3x Cyclic Ion Blasters, Advanced Targeting System; 2x Shield Drones (154)
Commander w/ 3x Missile Pods, Advanced Targeting System (156)
3x XV8s w/ 9x Cyclic Ion Blasters; 6x Gun Drones (336)
3x XV8s w/ 6x Cyclic Ion Blasters, 3x Advanced Targeting Systems; 6x Gun Drones (306)
3x XV8s w/ 9x Flamers, 6x Gun Drones (255)
3x XV8s w/ 6x Fusion Blasters, 3x Flamers; 6x Gun Drones (327)
3x XV8s w/ 9x Plasma Rifles; 6x Gun Drones (273)
(Sorry for long quote ) I totally agree that the most optimal use for commander is 4x Fusion, but I currently play against hordes more often than not, so I took the CIBs for slightly better all-round usage. With the crisis, I didnt have enough of any gun to proxy 6 of the same gun, so I went with a set of fusions, but if it's much worse overall, I'll make them all CIB. I personally think that the dakka from the DC is very useful, but im not so sold on the flamers, so will probably change them. Thanks for the tips, and yeah these builds seem very popular across the forums.
P.S: Would you say that my original build is necessarily bad as opposed to just not optimised? Thanks