BS3 options with skyfire: AV12 (before Jink)
Iontide = str7 AP2 x3 = 1.5 hits, .5 HP lost
broadisde = str7 AP4 x4 = 3 hits, 1 HP lost
MP/MP crisis suit = str7 ap4 x4 = 2 hits, 2/3 HP lost
Skyray = awesomesauce
BurstTide (regular) str6 ap4 x8 = 4 hits 2/3 HP lost
BurstTide (nova) str6 ap4 x12= 6 hits, 1 PEN
Quad gun str7 AP4 x4 = 3hits, 1HP lost
BS 5 Quad gun = 4hits (*assuming), 1 and 1/3rd HP lost
just saying Aun'Va is saddened everytime a commander puts skyfire on a iontide. They are much better suited to anti infantry roles. EWO = good great, don't deepstrike terminators anywhere I can see them, VT = not a good choice on them, compared to any other option listed. Note the broadside up there is just a single broadside.
broadside x3 without skyfire: 12 shots = 3 and 2/3 hits, 1.22222whatever fraction that is, of a HP lost.
STILL BETTER THAN AN IONTIDE.
EDIT: Also you can get into the psycology of forceing your opponent to Jink and just look at the number of hits. Once again the iontide is not that great IF we look at more hits = more likely to cause a jink.
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Sample of My List:
1 Riptide (I never usually need 2) They waste enough firepower at 1.
2 12 Man FW teams with Warfish
1 8 Man Pathfinder Team & a 6 Man team or two 7 Man Teams
1 Rail Head with SMS
1 Ion Head with SMS
1 Skyray (Additional Markerlight Support)
samuraioshovah wrote:What I am noticing for a lot of 1850 GT Lists, if you give your opponent more armor (Tanks) than they have squads to shoot up they can fall apart.
Yes so long as he and the squad it was bought for are deployed inside of it.Reaper501 wrote:Darkstrider goes with a warfish team(can make the transport outflank?)
This argument can be made about a number of things. If your opponent is prepared for it he can ruin your plan. If he's not prepared for it you ruin his plan. At that point it's a numbers game. If he buys the counter for a unit or option you are not using then he has wasted points. If he knows you're not bringing that unit or option he can choose to spend those points in other areas. I'm of the opinion devilfish are worthwhile and D-Pods are worthwhile if your meta is not saturated with Ignores Cover.Reaper501 wrote:One, was the abundance of ignores cover, and that disruption pods/stealth were sort of a bad investment, and similarly Devilfish.
-- Is it really that bad of an investment?
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